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CarGuru > Open discussion > Right idea but a bit lacking in delivery of the goods. 25 April 2005 23:05:25
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Right idea but a bit lacking in delivery of the goods.

Peter Hill 25 April 2005 23:05:25
 http://autocar.co.uk­/News_Article.asp?NA­_ID=214768

BMW are to put a compound turbo on a 3L inline 6 petrol engine.
330bhp from 3L is 110bhp/L. The OPC compound turbo Diesel makes
112bhp/L. In 1999 the ball bearing T28 on a Nissan SR20DET as used in
the S15 Silvia sold in Japan and 200SX sold in NZ made 125bhp/L. A
petrol compound turbo should be making over 150bhp/L so BMW are giving
short measure by 120bhp as a 3L engine should make 450bhp. 110bhp/L
was competitive for a turbo 11 years ago but not today.

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Steve Walker 25 April 2005 21:58:32 [ permanent link ]
 In message <257q6155poil3dlkbp­geibrib1mn2oks7g@4ax­.com>, Peter Hill
<peter.usenet1@nosp­am.demon.co.uk> writes>http://autoc­ar.co.uk/News_Articl­e.asp?NA_ID=214768>
BMW are to put a compound turbo on a 3L inline 6 petrol engine.>330bhp from 3L is 110bhp/L. The OPC compound turbo Diesel makes>112bhp/L. In 1999 the ball bearing T28 on a Nissan SR20DET as used in>the S15 Silvia sold in Japan and 200SX sold in NZ made 125bhp/L. A>petrol compound turbo should be making over 150bhp/L so BMW are giving>short measure by 120bhp as a 3L engine should make 450bhp. 110bhp/L>was competitive for a turbo 11 years ago but not today.

Flexibility over outright power (although with twin turbos, maybe not)
Service intervals / reliability
Emissions
Fuel consumption
Insurability
Not treading on the M3's toes

The last, I reckon.

Just because it *can* be done doesn't necessarily mean that they need to
do it. Honda sell Civics with both 197bhp and 160bhp 2.0 litre VTEC
engines. 100-110 bhp/l seems about standard for mainstream turbocharged
petrols; Focus RS, Megane, Golf GTi, hotter Astra, etc.

--
Steve Walker
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Justin Cole 25 April 2005 22:54:28 [ permanent link ]
 "Steve Walker" <steve@otolith.demo­n.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Tdxc60XI$SbCFw­oe@otolith.demon.co.­uk...> In message <257q6155poil3dlkbp­geibrib1mn2oks7g@4ax­.com>, Peter Hill > <peter.usenet1@nosp­am.demon.co.uk> writes>>http://auto­car.co.uk/News_Artic­le.asp?NA_ID=214768>­ Flexibility over outright power (although with twin turbos, maybe not)

Sequential turbo's - One for 'low' revs and the other for 'high' revs.
Flexibility should be very high with very low lag... (ala 535d)

Justin.


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Steve Walker 25 April 2005 23:05:25 [ permanent link ]
 In message <E1bbe.6175$YF5.124­7@newsfe5-win.ntli.n­et>, Justin Cole
<jus.coleNO@S-P-A-M­ntlworld.com> writes>"Steve Walker" <steve@otolith.demo­n.co.uk> wrote in message>news:Tdxc60­XI$SbCFwoe@otolith.d­emon.co.uk...>> In message <257q6155poil3dlkbp­geibrib1mn2oks7g@4ax­.com>, Peter Hill>> <peter.usenet1@nosp­am.demon.co.uk> writes>>>http://aut­ocar.co.uk/News_Arti­cle.asp?NA_ID=214768­>> Flexibility over outright power (although with twin turbos, maybe not)>
Sequential turbo's - One for 'low' revs and the other for 'high' revs.>Flexibility should be very high with very low lag... (ala 535d)

Hence the "maybe not", although it's all relative.

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