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Andy 7 May 2005 10:20:42
	Here's an easy one for all you out there. I have some 5 X12 Minilites that I'd like shod. Whets the best size to use without modifying the original arches? The car is an 82 city. Also,any idea as to the best place to purchase from ? Andy
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Ryan Shaw 7 May 2005 12:00:05 [ permanent link ]
	Simple - go for 165/60/12. I got Falken tyres - not a bad make,but you can get better. mine were Ј25 ea. so you're looking at Ј30 from a tyre place + fitting. never go for the cheaper 145/70/12 option - not worth the time or money. hope that helps Ryan "Andy" <mapleminiuk@btconnect.com> wrote in message news:d5hmnq$omd$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...> Here's an easy one for all you out there.> I have some 5 X12 Minilites that I'd like shod.> Whets the best size to use without modifying the original arches?> The car is an 82 city.> Also,any idea as to the best place to purchase from ?> Andy>
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Tfp 7 May 2005 13:05:34 [ permanent link ]
	"Andy" <mapleminiuk@btconnect.com> wrote in message > news:d5hmnq$omd$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...>> Here's an easy one for all you out there.>> I have some 5 X12 Minilites that I'd like shod.>> Whets the best size to use without modifying the original arches?>> The car is an 82 city.>> Also,any idea as to the best place to purchase from ?>> Andy>> "Ryan Shaw" <r.a.shaw@durham.ac.uk> wrote in message news:d5hsh5$s35$1@heffalump.dur.ac.uk...> Simple - go for 165/60/12. I got Falken tyres - not a bad make,but you > can get better. mine were Ј25 ea. so you're looking at Ј30 from a tyre > place + fitting.> never go for the cheaper 145/70/12 option - not worth the time or money.> hope that helps> Ryan Er, 82 City =10 inch wheels! So, 145/10 on standard steel wheels, or 165/70/10 on wider alloys. TFP
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Ryan Shaw 7 May 2005 13:26:17 [ permanent link ]
	err!!! read the post!!!!! he says he wants to put 5x12 minilites on it! - so - my choice of 165/60/12 tyres would actually fit! - yours would mean he would have to stretch the diameter 2 inch! stooooopid Er, 82 City =10 inch wheels!> So, 145/10 on standard steel wheels, or 165/70/10 on wider alloys.>
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Nite Fire 8 May 2005 01:18:11 [ permanent link ]
	Hi Andy If you dont mind spending 350 a tyre go for Yokohama A539 in 165/60 x 12 size - amazing tyre, superb wet or dry! Dave "Andy" <mapleminiuk@btconnect.com> wrote in message news:d5hmnq$omd$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...> Here's an easy one for all you out there.> I have some 5 X12 Minilites that I'd like shod.> Whets the best size to use without modifying the original arches?> The car is an 82 city.> Also,any idea as to the best place to purchase from ?> Andy>
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Andy 8 May 2005 09:52:49 [ permanent link ]
	Many thanks for all the advice from you all. C ya in Brighton. Andy "Andy" <mapleminiuk@btconnect.com> wrote in message news:d5hmnq$omd$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...> Here's an easy one for all you out there.> I have some 5 X12 Minilites that I'd like shod.> Whets the best size to use without modifying the original arches?> The car is an 82 city.> Also,any idea as to the best place to purchase from ?> Andy>
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Mary Crosby 3 September 2005 12:00:43 [ permanent link ]
	Little used 4 Bridgestone Dueler H/T 205/70/R15 tyres for sale each has an average of 6mm of tread. Ј80 for the 4. Because of the weight I can't post so the buyer would have to collect. I live in the Newcastle-Upon-Tyne area. I would be willing to travel a shortdistance to meet the buyer half way so to speak providing they cover my fuel costs.
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Justin Cole 16 October 2005 22:28:39 [ permanent link ]
	"Robert Knowles" <BobKnowles78@hotmaildot.co.dotuk> wrote in message news:lN2dnZrTgYYUk8_eSa8jmw@karoo.co.uk...> does that inc balancing and new valves and fitting??? Nope, but includes postage to your door! Justin.
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Rob 2 December 2006 16:23:38 [ permanent link ]
	The front tyres on Hyundai Coupe SE need replacing. They are currently Michelin 215/45ZR17. The ZR rating is probably completely over the top for me - I never do over 130mph!!! So I assume an H rating would be fine for me (up to 130mph). Then there's the question about well known makes versus "High quality tyres from leading European manufacturers" as described on www.mytyres.co.uk. They are considerably cheaper but are there any risks? Are they actually worse tyres, i.e. wear down faster or more dangerous? Thanks, Rob.
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Rob 2 December 2006 16:34:47 [ permanent link ]
	are considerably cheaper but are there any risks? Are they actually worse > tyres, i.e. wear down faster or more dangerous? PS. And what's the deal with summer versus all-season tyres in the UK? Cheers, Rob
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Rob 2 December 2006 17:07:16 [ permanent link ]
	What's the manufacturer's spec for the tyres on it?> If they say ZR and you fit HR, the insurers may well use that as an excuse> to try to weasel out of a claim. I'll have to check. Sounds to me a bit like one of the "cons" in the car industry. Tyres rated way more than the speed limit IMHO, cheap tyres are a false economy. Isn't the net fun Just spent some time reading about tyres, more than I'd like to know thank you! Over at www.tyretest.com, the Toyo - PROXES T1-R tyre comes out as their number one tyre. I can get these for ё81.00 each on www.mytyres.co.uk and then get them fitted locally for ё20 (need two). So that's ё182 compared to ё257 for two Dunlop SP Sport 9000 at Kwik-Fit which might actually be for a better tyre. BTW - what's rim protection? Thanks, Rob.
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Zimmy 2 December 2006 17:26:10 [ permanent link ]
	"Rob" <rob_nicholson@nospam_unforgettable.com> wrote in message news:Xhfch.2060$d14.861@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...>> are considerably cheaper but are there any risks? Are they actually worse >> tyres, i.e. wear down faster or more dangerous?> PS. And what's the deal with summer versus all-season tyres in the UK? Summer tyres are meant for dry/wet conditions and warmer temperatures. The compound could become much less grippy in very cold/freezing conditions and the tread will not be designed for the possibility of snow/slush. i.e. you do not want to be caught in the snow with them, even on a frosty morning the grip will not be great. All season are more of a compromise designed for all conditions. Z
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Rob 2 December 2006 17:31:19 [ permanent link ]
	that's ё182 compared to ё257 for two Dunlop SP Sport 9000 at Kwik-Fit > which might actually be for a better tyre. Hang on my mistake - wrong car selected on Kwik-fit. Stangely, when I go through their tyre selector for the car, they come up with completely the wrong tyre! A 205/55V16... Doesn't fill you with confidence! I'm still confused with these tyre ratings. The tyres currently fitted are Mitchelin Pilot Sport 215/45ZR17 87 Y o Okay, I understand the 215 bit - the width. That's kind of important o The 45 bit is the aspect ratio which relates to how low profile they are. o The R means radial but what's the Z bit mean? Is that part of the speed rating or a special type of radial? o The 17 is the size of the wheel which is once again kind of important. o The 87 is the load capacity. o The Y is the speed symbol. Cheers, Rob.
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Rob 2 December 2006 17:31:55 [ permanent link ]
	Yes, the "SP SPORT MAXX 215/45 ZR17 91Y XL Rim-protection, BSW" from there > looks like a good replacement. Got all the same numbers and letters! LOL - I've just read that the Y speed rating is "Exotic sports cars". I wouldn't rate a 2L Hyundia Coupe quite like that Cheers, Rob.
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Zimmy 2 December 2006 17:34:07 [ permanent link ]
	"Rob" <rob_nicholson@nospam_unforgettable.com> wrote in message news:oMfch.8829$s95.5553@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...>> What's the manufacturer's spec for the tyres on it?>> If they say ZR and you fit HR, the insurers may well use that as an >> excuse>> to try to weasel out of a claim.> I'll have to check. Sounds to me a bit like one of the "cons" in the car > industry. Tyres rated way more than the speed limit Erm, thats a MAX speed rating not an everyday rating. Was buying a coupe a con because you don't drive it flat out all the time? It just means a better/stronger tyre that can stand up to the stresses/heat of these speeds without falling apart. You still benefit at lower speeds. IMHO, cheap tyres are a false economy. Agreed, you generally get better grip/longevity with a known brand. BTW - what's rim protection? Its a lip that sticks out to protect the rim of your alloys from kerbs. Z
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Rob 2 December 2006 17:34:55 [ permanent link ]
	Erm, thats a MAX speed rating not an everyday rating. Was buying a coupe > a I know which possibly means that average driver doesn't need tyres that are rated at above 130mph. BTW - what's rim protection?> Its a lip that sticks out to protect the rim of your alloys from kerbs. Doesn't work <grin> Okay, I was a bit clumsy when I first got the coupe going from big chunky wheels and lots of parallel parking in the mill town where i live. Cheers, Rob.
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Rob 2 December 2006 17:36:47 [ permanent link ]
	Summer tyres are meant for dry/wet conditions and warmer temperatures. The > compound could become much less grippy in very cold/freezing conditions > and the tread will not be designed for the possibility of snow/slush. i.e. > you do not want to be caught in the snow with them, even on a frosty > morning the grip will not be great. All season are more of a compromise > designed for all conditions. What kind of tyres are typically fitted in the UK? I think tyres that perform better in the wet would be more appropriate to our current climate! Cheers, Rob.
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Rob 2 December 2006 17:40:19 [ permanent link ]
	What kind of tyres are typically fitted in the UK? I think tyres that > perform better in the wet would be more appropriate to our current > climate! Doesn't matter - all the ZR tyres appear to be classed as summer anyway. Cheers, Rob.
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Rob 2 December 2006 17:59:24 [ permanent link ]
	What's the manufacturer's spec for the tyres on it?> If they say ZR and you fit HR, the insurers may well use that as an excuse> to try to weasel out of a claim. You've got me paranoid now The Toyo ones are "W" rating whereas the existing ones are "Y" rating. But from what I can see, the letters don't got up in order so "W" rating is higher than "Y" - is that right? Thanks, Rob.
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Adrian 2 December 2006 18:13:40 [ permanent link ]
	Rob (rob_nicholson@nospam_unforgettable.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying : that's ё182 compared to ё257 for two Dunlop SP Sport 9000 at Kwik-Fit>> which might actually be for a better tyre. Hang on my mistake - wrong car selected on Kwik-fit. Stangely, when I> go through their tyre selector for the car, they come up with> completely the wrong tyre! A 205/55V16... Doesn't fill you with> confidence! Perhaps that's standard fit and yours has optional or aftermarket 17" rims? Or perhaps KF list a different spec of car? Whatever. You aren't going to fit 16" tyres on a 17" rim, and the two sizes are going to have about the same rolling radius. I'm still confused with these tyre ratings. The tyres currently fitted> are Mitchelin Pilot Sport 215/45ZR17 87 Y> o Okay, I understand the 215 bit - the width. That's kind of important> o The 45 bit is the aspect ratio which relates to how low profile> they are. Height of sidewall as a %age of tread width. o The R means radial but what's the Z bit mean? Is that part of the speed > rating or a special type of radial? Speed rating. o The Y is the speed symbol. Ummm, yes. Seems odd. I'm baffled, too.
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Adrian 2 December 2006 18:14:50 [ permanent link ]
	Rob (rob_nicholson@nospam_unforgettable.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying : What's the manufacturer's spec for the tyres on it?>> If they say ZR and you fit HR, the insurers may well use that as an>> excuse to try to weasel out of a claim. You've got me paranoid now The Toyo ones are "W" rating whereas> the existing ones are "Y" rating. But from what I can see, the letters> don't got up in order so "W" rating is higher than "Y" - is that> right? http://www.blackcircles.com/general/speedrating
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Guy King 2 December 2006 19:15:53 [ permanent link ]
	The message <Xns988D8BA10F90Fadrianachapmanfreeis@204.153.244.170> from Adrian <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> contains these words: What's the manufacturer's spec for the tyres on it?> If they say ZR and you fit HR, the insurers may well use that as an excuse > to try to weasel out of a claim. Any evidence for that? It'd be hard to see how they could get away with refusing to pay for an accident at town speeds by claiming the tyres weren't rated at 130+mph. -- Skipweasel Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
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Guy King 2 December 2006 19:16:50 [ permanent link ]
	The message <z9gch.10434$k74.9487@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk> from "Zimmy" <x@y.z> contains these words: It just means a better/stronger tyre that can stand up to the stresses/heat > of these speeds without falling apart. You still benefit at lower speeds. In what way? -- Skipweasel Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
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Rob 2 December 2006 19:17:33 [ permanent link ]
	Seems odd. I'm baffled, too. Glad it's not just me. Girlfriend has also been having a car tyre nightmare this afternoon. She had a puncture in her mini cooper run-flat's so took it to the local tyre garage. When they examined the back two tyres, they a) found the screw which they repaired but b) found both tyres had started to split around the centre axis. Not good! Took car straight back to mini garage and they've kept it and given her a replacement until Tuesday. The tyre fitter said he'd seen similar faults with Dunlops before but never on a mini. Cheers, Rob.
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Lin Chung 2 December 2006 21:23:37 [ permanent link ]
	Zimmy wrote:> Rob wrote:> > ...And what's the deal with summer versus all-season tyres in> > the UK?> Summer tyres are meant for dry/wet conditions and warmer temperatures.> The compound could become much less grippy in very cold/freezing> conditions and the tread will not be designed for the possibility of> snow/slush....All season are more of a compromise designed for all> conditions. Specifically, as regard winter tyres, in this article it says, "Rubber, whether a ball or a tire, tends to harden in cold weather, but these new generation winter tires maintain their elasticity and gripping power at -35 C, and below, whereas traditional all-season tires tend to stiffen and lose gripping power at around 0 C." http://www.betiresmart.ca/pdf/2005_1204.pdf (3rd paragraph) I have read that the traditional all-season tyres begin to lose gripping power at 7 C (45 F), but I've lost the link now. That means even in the southern parts of the British Isles, winter tyres are preferred in the colder months. -- Lin Chung. [Paste ntlworld over the Water Margin to send a private message.]
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Chris Bartram 2 December 2006 21:37:16 [ permanent link ]
	Rob wrote: Hang on my mistake - wrong car selected on Kwik-fit. Stangely, when I go > through their tyre selector for the car, they come up with completely the > wrong tyre! A 205/55V16... Doesn't fill you with confidence! That's because Kwik Fit are completey fucking incompetent.
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Chris Bartram 2 December 2006 21:39:25 [ permanent link ]
	Guy King wrote:> The message <Xns988D8BA10F90Fadrianachapmanfreeis@204.153.244.170>> from Adrian <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> contains these words:> What's the manufacturer's spec for the tyres on it?>> If they say ZR and you fit HR, the insurers may well use that as an excuse >> to try to weasel out of a claim.> Any evidence for that? It'd be hard to see how they could get away with> refusing to pay for an accident at town speeds by claiming the tyres> weren't rated at 130+mph.> No evidence, but ISTR that the car is type-approved on tyres of a certain speed rating.
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Rob 2 December 2006 22:05:52 [ permanent link ]
	No evidence, but ISTR that the car is type-approved on tyres of a certain > speed rating. The 2.0 SE might be classed as a sports car but it's not exactly speedy Didn't buy it for speed I guess. Cheers, Rob.
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Rob 2 December 2006 22:07:56 [ permanent link ]
	I'm lucky in that there's a tyre place near work that fits what you want, > at a good price, and takes care of your car and wheels while doing I like this mytyres.co.uk idea - not used them before but I feel like I'm getting more choice in the deal. They certainly carry enough tyres to satisfy any rubber enthusiast! They'll deliver to a local garage about 4 miles away which is ideal/ Cheers, Rob.
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Marvin 2 December 2006 22:10:16 [ permanent link ]
	Rob wrote:>> Summer tyres are meant for dry/wet conditions and warmer temperatures. The >> compound could become much less grippy in very cold/freezing conditions >> and the tread will not be designed for the possibility of snow/slush. i.e. >> you do not want to be caught in the snow with them, even on a frosty >> morning the grip will not be great. All season are more of a compromise >> designed for all conditions.> What kind of tyres are typically fitted in the UK? I think tyres that > perform better in the wet would be more appropriate to our current climate!> Cheers, Rob. > Like Vredestein for example.
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David R 19 December 2006 00:33:48 [ permanent link ]
	Hey, I find my son's car pretty uncomfy at times, and I think it could be down to tyres. It's a year 2000 Escort 'finesse' (not) - I'm aware from my own past that escorts aren't the most refined of vehicles, but I've had the suspension checked out, and it seems it's fine. There's varying tyres on the front currently, in terms of brand. I thought I'd try a couple of new tyres on the front, only to be reminded by my conscience that 2 new tyres should go on the back. The 'discomfort' I feel is from the front of the car, so changing those tyres makes more sense to me, but I'm ware of the oversteer issue posed by shoving 2 brand spanking new tyres on the front of a car. I'm not buying 4 new tyres, fook that, and I'm concerned with shoving the rear tyres on the front, I just don't think they're going have any effect. Also, I'm looking at etyres or blackcircles (both .co.uk) for them. Size is: 195/50/15 speed-rating: doesn't matter, R or V I guess for cheapness. Firestone TZ 200 Falken ZE 512 ё43.35 Pirelli P6000 ё44.12 In their 3-tier rating, 'good, better, best', the firestone's are 'good', falken and pirelli's 'best'. Falken's are on special offer at the momento. I don't trust their own reviews, purely because they might be balls, and google gives conflicting reviews of the tyres. Anybody chose any tyres recently that can offer some advice? Regards, Dave
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Paul Cummins 19 December 2006 01:58:00 [ permanent link ]
	In article <0PDhh.21225$n36.11118@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net>, david_r@ntlworld.com (David R) wrote: In their 3-tier rating, 'good, better, best', the firestone's are > 'good', falken and pirelli's 'best'. Falken's are on special offer > at the momento.> I don't trust their own reviews, purely because they might be > balls, and google gives conflicting reviews of the tyres. Anybody > chose any tyres recently that can offer some advice? I drive a 1999 Escort on Falkens - they wear out fairly quickly, but you can't go wrong for the price. If you're near Hampshire, then Micheldever tyres will do them cheaper. -- Paul Cummins FREE mobile phones, with FREE line rental http://www.gstgroup.co.uk/
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David R 19 December 2006 13:55:07 [ permanent link ]
	"Paul Cummins" <agree2pay4uce@spam.vlaad.co.uk> wrote in message news:memo.20061218225848.364A@admin.vlaad.co.uk...> In article <0PDhh.21225$n36.11118@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net>,> david_r@ntlworld.com (David R) wrote:> In their 3-tier rating, 'good, better, best', the firestone's are>> 'good', falken and pirelli's 'best'. Falken's are on special offer>> at the momento.>> I don't trust their own reviews, purely because they might be>> balls, and google gives conflicting reviews of the tyres. Anybody>> chose any tyres recently that can offer some advice?> I drive a 1999 Escort on Falkens - they wear out fairly quickly, but> you can't go wrong for the price.> If you're near Hampshire, then Micheldever tyres will do them cheaper. Is it never advisable to put new tyres on the front? I'm figuring that's where the issue is in terms of comfort. The manual says front, most car tyre manufacturer's say the back. But then again, I can't help but think they'd rather you bought 4 tyres at a time...
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