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camry or subaru?
Guest 6 May 2005 22:59:44
	between subaru (2005 LEGACY 2.5I SEDAN ) and toyota camry ( 2005 SE 4dr Sedan OR LE 4dr Sedan), which one would you recommend?
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Mk IV 7 May 2005 01:52:23 [ permanent link ]
	amanda992004@yahoo.com <amanda992004@yahoo.com> scribbled: between subaru (2005 LEGACY 2.5I SEDAN ) and toyota camry ( 2005 SE> 4dr Sedan OR LE 4dr Sedan), which one would you recommend? What engine in the Camry? The 2.4l 4 cyl. engine or the V6? What engine for the Legacy? Turbo or no turbo? With the 4cyl. engine, go with the Legacy, otherwise pick the Camry unless you drive in the snow 6 months a year...
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Rick Courtright 7 May 2005 02:16:23 [ permanent link ]
	amanda992004@yahoo.com wrote:> between subaru (2005 LEGACY 2.5I SEDAN ) and toyota camry ( 2005 SE 4dr> Sedan OR LE 4dr Sedan), which one would you recommend? Hi, What are you looking for? While these are both 4 door sedans, I think the similarities start to fade quickly from there! Do you NEED AWD? If so, there's no question. A lot of that depends on where you're located. I'm in SoCal, and have an older Subie that was built when they were still 4wd (switchable.) In the 6 1/2 years and 150k+ miles I've put on it, the times it's been in 4wd cuz it was TRULY needed can be counted on one hand. BUT, as the TV ads say, when those times came it was "priceless." If you live in snow country, your experience will be a whole different thing from mine! And, if you live where you might see dirt roads, the Camry SE is not the car to have unless you like the sound of stuff dragging the underside. I'm not sure, but I think the LE sits a little higher. OTOH, there are fewer Subies made, sold and serviced here in the US than Camries (forgetting that Toyota makes other cars & trucks, and a single large and well-known Toyota dealer in the LA area probably sells as many Toyotas in a year as all the Subie dealers in the whole state), so the availability of parts and service stands in Toyota's favor. Prices for parts for either make are outrageous, but IME Toyota's parts pipeline is something Subaru can only look at in awe. Toyota's dealer service is no bargain--I do all my own work on my Subie so I can't speak to dealer service there, just parts. Now, if you like the greater room and other "selling points" of the Camry, I'd suggest you go with one of the 4 cyl models. No, they don't have the power of the V-6, but they also get FAR better fuel economy, are much easier to work on, and should cost you less to maintain as a result. Toyota's 4 cyl engines are historically more oil tight than their V-6es, too. The V-6 shares one of Subie's shortcomings: almost all oil leaks lead straight to the exhaust system with attendant smoke and smells, and trust me, their V-6es DO leak! A good home wrench can pretty much take care of a 4 cyl--the V-6 is an exercise in frustration. BTW, I also own an earlier V-6 Camry SE in addition to my Subie, so I have no particular flag to wave here. They're different cars that serve different needs IMO. Rick
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Indirecto 8 May 2005 02:16:12 [ permanent link ]
	Why do you recommend the Legacy 4cyl, but not the H6? Curious. "MK IV" <none@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:F6udnWVp0_a7eubfRVn-rg@igs.net...> amanda992004@yahoo.com <amanda992004@yahoo.com> scribbled:> between subaru (2005 LEGACY 2.5I SEDAN ) and toyota camry ( 2005 SE>> 4dr Sedan OR LE 4dr Sedan), which one would you recommend?> What engine in the Camry? The 2.4l 4 cyl. engine or the V6? What engine > for the Legacy? Turbo or no turbo?> With the 4cyl. engine, go with the Legacy, otherwise pick the Camry unless > you drive in the snow 6 months a year...>
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Bonehenge 8 May 2005 04:00:02 [ permanent link ]
	On Sat, 7 May 2005 18:16:12 -0400, "Indirecto" <indirecto@hotmail.com> wrote: Why do you recommend the Legacy 4cyl, but not the H6? The H6 is a waste. It's heavier and uses more fuel, and the required automatic tranny swallows some power. A 5 speed manual H4 has the same feel, better mileage, and a longer track record. The Subie AT mated to the '00-'02 4 is a true slush bucket. I don't know if the '03-on cars are better, since I've not driven them. Barry
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Guest 8 May 2005 07:59:39 [ permanent link ]
	Rick Courtright wrote:> amanda992004@yahoo.com wrote:> > between subaru (2005 LEGACY 2.5I SEDAN ) and toyota camry ( 2005 SE Sedan OR LE 4dr Sedan), which one would you recommend?> Hi,> What are you looking for? While these are both 4 door sedans, I think> the similarities start to fade quickly from there!> Do you NEED AWD? If so, there's no question. A lot of that depends on> where you're located. I'm in SoCal, I am in Northern California - not San Francisco or Bay area - where it gets quite hot in the summer. I will never live in really cold plcaes (snowy places) like Colorado. and have an older Subie that was> built when they were still 4wd (switchable.) In the 6 1/2 years and> 150k+ miles I've put on it, the times it's been in 4wd cuz it was TRULY> needed can be counted on one hand. BUT, as the TV ads say, when those> times came it was "priceless." If you live in snow country, your> experience will be a whole different thing from mine! And, if you live> where you might see dirt roads, the Camry SE is not the car to have> unless you like the sound of stuff dragging the underside. I'm not sure,> but I think the LE sits a little higher. I see. I can't see myself to be living in the area with dirt road int he near future, in fact, probaby never. OTOH, there are fewer Subies made, sold and serviced here in the US than> Camries (forgetting that Toyota makes other cars & trucks, and a single> large and well-known Toyota dealer in the LA area probably sells as many> Toyotas in a year as all the Subie dealers in the whole state), so the availability of parts and service stands in Toyota's favor. I have heard about that. Prices for> parts for either make are outrageous, but IME Toyota's parts pipeline something Subaru can only look at in awe. Good to know. Toyota's dealer service is no> bargain--I do all my own work on my Subie so I can't speak to dealer> service there, just parts.> Now, if you like the greater room and other "selling points" of the> Camry, I'd suggest you go with one of the 4 cyl models. I do prefer greater room. No, they don't> have the power of the V-6, but they also get FAR better fuel economy,> are much easier to work on, and should cost you less to maintain as a> result. Okay. Toyota's 4 cyl engines are historically more oil tight than> their V-6es, too. The V-6 shares one of Subie's shortcomings: almost oil leaks lead straight to the exhaust system with attendant smoke smells, and trust me, their V-6es DO leak! A good home wrench can pretty> much take care of a 4 cyl--the V-6 is an exercise in frustration. Oil leak is something I'd be scared off. Thanks for letting me know. BTW, I also own an earlier V-6 Camry SE in addition to my Subie, so I> have no particular flag to wave here. They're different cars that serve> different needs IMO.> Rick It seems that living in Sacramento, Camry would be less costly maintencance- wise, am I right?
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Jim Stewart 8 May 2005 10:01:48 [ permanent link ]
	amanda992004@yahoo.com wrote:> Rick Courtright wrote:> amanda992004@yahoo.com wrote:>> between subaru (2005 LEGACY 2.5I SEDAN ) and toyota camry ( 2005 SE> Sedan OR LE 4dr Sedan), which one would you recommend?>> Hi,>> What are you looking for? While these are both 4 door sedans, I think>>the similarities start to fade quickly from there!>> Do you NEED AWD? If so, there's no question. A lot of that depends on>>where you're located. I'm in SoCal,> I am in Northern California - not San Francisco or Bay area - where it> gets quite hot in the summer. I will never live in really cold plcaes> (snowy places) like Colorado.> and have an older Subie that was>>built when they were still 4wd (switchable.) In the 6 1/2 years and>>150k+ miles I've put on it, the times it's been in 4wd cuz it was> TRULY> needed can be counted on one hand. BUT, as the TV ads say, when those>>times came it was "priceless." If you live in snow country, your>>experience will be a whole different thing from mine! And, if you> live> where you might see dirt roads, the Camry SE is not the car to have>>unless you like the sound of stuff dragging the underside.> I'm not sure,>>but I think the LE sits a little higher.> I see. I can't see myself to be living in the area with dirt road int> he near future, in fact, probaby never.> OTOH, there are fewer Subies made, sold and serviced here in the US> than> Camries (forgetting that Toyota makes other cars & trucks, and a> single> large and well-known Toyota dealer in the LA area probably sells as> many> Toyotas in a year as all the Subie dealers in the whole state), so> the availability of parts and service stands in Toyota's favor.> I have heard about that.> Prices for>>parts for either make are outrageous, but IME Toyota's parts pipeline> something Subaru can only look at in awe.> Good to know.> Toyota's dealer service is no>>bargain--I do all my own work on my Subie so I can't speak to dealer>>service there, just parts.>> Now, if you like the greater room and other "selling points" of the>>Camry, I'd suggest you go with one of the 4 cyl models.> I do prefer greater room.> No, they don't>>have the power of the V-6, but they also get FAR better fuel economy,>>are much easier to work on, and should cost you less to maintain as a>>result.> Okay.> Toyota's 4 cyl engines are historically more oil tight than>>their V-6es, too. The V-6 shares one of Subie's shortcomings: almost> oil leaks lead straight to the exhaust system with attendant smoke> smells, and trust me, their V-6es DO leak! A good home wrench can> pretty> much take care of a 4 cyl--the V-6 is an exercise in frustration.> Oil leak is something I'd be scared off. Thanks for letting me know.> BTW, I also own an earlier V-6 Camry SE in addition to my Subie, so I>>have no particular flag to wave here. They're different cars that> serve> different needs IMO.>> Rick> It seems that living in Sacramento, Camry would be less costly> maintencance- wise, am I right?> I don't know how any car could be less costly than my '99 Outback has been. I bought it new, it has 109k miles on it and it has costed me $700 in maintainance, including brakes. I live in Davis and make a couple trips a week into Sacramento so my driving is quite similar to yours. BTW, after helping my wife buy her WRX there, I recommend Auburn Subaru. We have not been impressed with either of the Sacramento Subaru dealers.
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Indirecto 8 May 2005 13:59:24 [ permanent link ]
	I saw in an auto-show a manual H6 subaru... looked real nice. Is the tranny really such the power sucker? (btw, what is a "true slush bucket"?) "Bonehenge" <Keep_it_in_the_newsgroup_please@aol.com> wrote in message news:sblq711qjf6p7bnhmblakfn79rnojk470f@4ax.com...> On Sat, 7 May 2005 18:16:12 -0400, "Indirecto" <indirecto@hotmail.com>> wrote:> Why do you recommend the Legacy 4cyl, but not the H6?> The H6 is a waste. It's heavier and uses more fuel, and the required> automatic tranny swallows some power. A 5 speed manual H4 has the> same feel, better mileage, and a longer track record.> The Subie AT mated to the '00-'02 4 is a true slush bucket. I don't> know if the '03-on cars are better, since I've not driven them.> Barry
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Bonehenge 8 May 2005 15:11:11 [ permanent link ]
	On Sun, 8 May 2005 05:59:24 -0400, "Indirecto" <indirecto@hotmail.com> wrote: I saw in an auto-show a manual H6 subaru... looked real nice.> Is the tranny really such the power sucker? I examples I've driven seemed to be. Back in '01, the 6 was 212 HP, while the 4 was 165. The 6 only felt more powerful if compared with a 4 mated to the AT. I felt little difference between a 4 with the MT, and the 6 with an AT, other than a lack of driver effort to shift. Newer versions may be better, I haven't compared them lately. A manual on the 6 would be nice! (btw, what is a "true slush bucket"?) "Slush Bucket" is the nickname for a vague, mushy feeling automatic tranny. Not all AT's are slush buckets, but the '05 Chevy Malibu I recently rented redefined the term! <G>
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Bonehenge 8 May 2005 15:47:05 [ permanent link ]
	On Sun, 08 May 2005 04:22:27 GMT, "bicycle$Mr. R. White$" <bicycle@charter.net> wrote: There is NO comparsion between Subaru and Toyota when it comes to>reliability, costs and long term investment. I've owned both, so here's my take, some of which is locally flavored: Toyota has taken reliability and owner serviceability to the point of boredom. I find Toyotas to be the most user serviceable going. My new truck even has the oil filter located at the front, top of the engine, where it drains when the engine is not running. My Outback's isn't bad, but the Toy is far better. Other services show the Toyota as hands-down better in all serviceability respects. Toyota even includes paperwork that tells you how to self-service the vehicle and still maintain warranty coverage. My Outback is the best snow car I've _EVER_ been in, this is compared to 4x4 trucks, cars, SUV's Wranglers, you name it. The car simply lives for New England snowstorms. I've also found the OBW to be very comfortable on long trips, it's quiet, safe, roomy, rides nice, etc... It even tows a 1500 pound enclosed trailer nicely. This is why states like Vermont and New Hampshire are crawling with Subaru's. I usually don't like to deal with dealerships, but my local Toyota dealers gladly match online parts prices, so I can use OEM parts for chain store copy prices. They even carry the better aftermarket stuff, like K&N filters, Borla exhausts, etc... They don't cry about quality aftermarket items voiding warranties. My local Subaru dealer's service departments are slime, famous for $500 lube / inspection jobs, MSRP parts, and warranty work on the customer. These guys (and a woman) might even tell you that Mobil 1 might void the warranty, when the manual specifically gives synthetic oil info! The mechanics are very good at what they do, but their bosses suck. When buying new cars, the (3) local Subaru dealers all used tactics similar to those mentioned in "Confessions of a Car Salesman" on edmunds.com, the Toyota folks were extremely easy and honest to deal with. The boob-implanted, skin tight top wearing F&I woman who signed my paperwork spent 30 minutes bragging about "her" Outback". It turns out that she actually drives an H2. <G> ANYONE will fix a Toyota, some independent shops aren't interested in, or all that good at working on Subies. The Subie guys are out there, but you'll have to find them. Places like Vermont have them on every corner, shops in Florida may look at you like you just pulled in a Studebaker. Typical long-term service jobs like clutches and timing belts are far more involved and expensive on the Subie than a Toyota. Remember, an AWD car of any brand is more complex than a 2WD. All current Subarus are AWD, so they kind of lose on this category, unless it's a rare AWD 'Yota that you're comparing. My bottom line: Lots of bad weather, light towing, or you need to use the inside like a mini-truck, AND you're very good about scheduled maintenance and the local mechanic network is there. Get the Subaru. You kind of want to drive it into the ground, the weather's not a factor, you rarely, if ever leave pavement. The Camry is the way to go.
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Guest 9 May 2005 00:50:22 [ permanent link ]
	We have not been impressed with either of the Sacramento Subaru dealers. Thanks for the info.
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Guest 9 May 2005 00:53:17 [ permanent link ]
	in your choice of a long term automotive investment, my money is on the Toyota. Thanks. Living in this city and considering the miantence cost involved, I should go for Toyota: 4 cyl (not V6) Camry LE 4dr Sudan. I think.
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Earle Jones 10 May 2005 05:02:25 [ permanent link ]
	In article <1115524779.567069.260630@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, amanda992004@yahoo.com wrote: Rick Courtright wrote:> > amanda992004@yahoo.com wrote:> > > between subaru (2005 LEGACY 2.5I SEDAN ) and toyota camry ( 2005 SE> 4dr> > > Sedan OR LE 4dr Sedan), which one would you recommend? [...clip...] * My two cents: Take a look at the '05 Toyota Prius. It gets about 48 MPG compared to around 24 for the Camry or Subaru. The Prius battery and in fact, the whole electric drive train, is guaranteed (in California) for 150,000 miles and ten years. In addition, there is a $2,000 federal tax deduction if you buy it this year. In a year or two, the Camry hybrid will hit the market ('07, I think.) I have an '05 Prius (and an '01 Subaru Outback wagon) and I cannot imagine ever buying another car that is not a hybrid. earle *
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