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Hill Holder Question
Poster 27 April 2005 04:05:18
	Hi, I'm curious to know. Let's say when I'm at the bottom of a hill, I start my Forester in 1st gear and of course the hill holder will kick in to hold the car until I release the clutch. However, when I depress the clutch again to change to 2nd gear and I'm still climbing the hill, will the hill holder kick in when depress the clutch? -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Are you still wasting your time with spam?... There is a solution!" Protected by GIANT Company's Spam Inspector The most powerful anti-spam software available. http://mail.spaminspector.com
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Mike 27 April 2005 04:15:53 [ permanent link ]
	No, beacuse you are not using the brakes. "Poster" <Poster@home.com> wrote in message news:426ed694$0$23037$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...> Hi,> I'm curious to know. Let's say when I'm at the bottom of a hill, I start > my Forester in 1st gear and of course the hill holder will kick in to hold > the car until I release the clutch. However, when I depress the clutch > again to change to 2nd gear and I'm still climbing the hill, will the hill > holder kick in when depress the clutch?> -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------> "Are you still wasting your time with spam?...> There is a solution!"> Protected by GIANT Company's Spam Inspector> The most powerful anti-spam software available.> http://mail.spaminspector.com>
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H 27 April 2005 06:26:28 [ permanent link ]
	The Hill Holder works by holding the brake-fluid pressure that you applied in the system as long as the clutch is held in , thereby keeping brakes engaged. The Hill Holder does not apply the brakes. Once the brake-fluid pressure is released, either by the Hill Holder valve or by letting the brake pedal up in normal situation, you must re-pressurize the system with the brake pedal. -- If a job's worth doin' it's worth doing twice! "Poster" <Poster@home.com> wrote in message news:426ed694$0$23037$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...> Hi,> I'm curious to know. Let's say when I'm at the bottom of a hill, I start > my Forester in 1st gear and of course the hill holder will kick in to hold > the car until I release the clutch. However, when I depress the clutch > again to change to 2nd gear and I'm still climbing the hill, will the hill > holder kick in when depress the clutch?> -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------> "Are you still wasting your time with spam?...> There is a solution!"> Protected by GIANT Company's Spam Inspector> The most powerful anti-spam software available.> http://mail.spaminspector.com>
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Mark H 27 April 2005 15:29:50 [ permanent link ]
	The Hill Holder works by holding the brake-fluid pressure that you applied> in the system as long as the clutch is held in , thereby keeping brakes> engaged. The Hill Holder does not apply the brakes. Once the brake-fluid> pressure is released, either by the Hill Holder valve or by letting the> brake pedal up in normal situation, you must re-pressurize the system with> the brake pedal. So why doesn't the same apply when you're rolling to a stop? If I put the clutch in and select neutral when coming down to a set of lights, apply brakes, and then release the brakes while still holding in the clutch, why doesn't my car continue to brake? Safety feature? -mark
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Sparky Polastri 27 April 2005 17:43:24 [ permanent link ]
	"Mark H" <nukeleerATinternodeDOTonDOTnetREMOVECAPSAU> wrote in message news:426f77b9$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...>> The Hill Holder works by holding the brake-fluid pressure that you >> applied>> in the system as long as the clutch is held in , thereby keeping brakes>> engaged. The Hill Holder does not apply the brakes. Once the brake-fluid>> pressure is released, either by the Hill Holder valve or by letting the>> brake pedal up in normal situation, you must re-pressurize the system >> with>> the brake pedal.> So why doesn't the same apply when you're rolling to a stop?> If I put the clutch in and select neutral when coming down to a set of> lights, apply brakes, and then release the brakes while still holding in > the> clutch, why doesn't my car continue to brake? Safety feature?> -mark> The hill holder is sensitive to inclination of the vehicle. See archives of this group, a link was posted that covered engineering of the device in detail. Probably about 2 - 4 weeks ago.
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Mike 27 April 2005 18:06:40 [ permanent link ]
	Hill holder also need a minimum brake pressure. "Mark H" <nukeleerATinternodeDOTonDOTnetREMOVECAPSAU> wrote in message news:426f77b9$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...>> The Hill Holder works by holding the brake-fluid pressure that you >> applied>> in the system as long as the clutch is held in , thereby keeping brakes>> engaged. The Hill Holder does not apply the brakes. Once the brake-fluid>> pressure is released, either by the Hill Holder valve or by letting the>> brake pedal up in normal situation, you must re-pressurize the system >> with>> the brake pedal.> So why doesn't the same apply when you're rolling to a stop?> If I put the clutch in and select neutral when coming down to a set of> lights, apply brakes, and then release the brakes while still holding in > the> clutch, why doesn't my car continue to brake? Safety feature?> -mark>
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Fuzzy Logic 27 April 2005 21:59:44 [ permanent link ]
	"Sparky Polastri" <jafiwam@MuNGEDyahoo.com> wrote in news:426f928a$1_3 @newspeer2.tds.net: "Mark H" <nukeleerATinternodeDOTonDOTnetREMOVECAPSAU> wrote in message > news:426f77b9$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...>>> The Hill Holder works by holding the brake-fluid pressure that you >>> applied>>> in the system as long as the clutch is held in , thereby keeping brakes>>> engaged. The Hill Holder does not apply the brakes. Once the brake-fluid>>> pressure is released, either by the Hill Holder valve or by letting the>>> brake pedal up in normal situation, you must re-pressurize the system >>> with>>> the brake pedal.>> So why doesn't the same apply when you're rolling to a stop?>> If I put the clutch in and select neutral when coming down to a set of>> lights, apply brakes, and then release the brakes while still holding in >> the>> clutch, why doesn't my car continue to brake? Safety feature?>> -mark>> The hill holder is sensitive to inclination of the vehicle.> See archives of this group, a link was posted that covered engineering of > the device in detail. Probably about 2 - 4 weeks ago. Here you go: http://www.drive.subaru.com/Spr03_HillHolder.htm
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Wilco van Diest 28 April 2005 11:48:29 [ permanent link ]
	I'm just curious, where under the hood can I this this nifty piece of technologie? Near the proportion valve or brake-booster or ? (photo ? ) Wilco "Fuzzy Logic" <bob@arc.ab.caREMOVETHIS> schreef in bericht news:Xns96457A06E52ECbobarcabca@198.161.157.145...> "Sparky Polastri" <jafiwam@MuNGEDyahoo.com> wrote in news:426f928a$1_3> @newspeer2.tds.net:> "Mark H" <nukeleerATinternodeDOTonDOTnetREMOVECAPSAU> wrote in message> > news:426f77b9$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...> >>> The Hill Holder works by holding the brake-fluid pressure that you> >>> applied> >>> in the system as long as the clutch is held in , thereby keeping brakes> >>> engaged. The Hill Holder does not apply the brakes. Once the brake-fluid> >>> pressure is released, either by the Hill Holder valve or by letting brake pedal up in normal situation, you must re-pressurize the system> >>> with> >>> the brake pedal.> >> So why doesn't the same apply when you're rolling to a stop?> >> If I put the clutch in and select neutral when coming down to a set of> >> lights, apply brakes, and then release the brakes while still holding clutch, why doesn't my car continue to brake? Safety feature?> >> -mark> >> The hill holder is sensitive to inclination of the vehicle.> > See archives of this group, a link was posted that covered engineering the device in detail. Probably about 2 - 4 weeks ago.> Here you go:> http://www.drive.subaru.com/Spr03_HillHolder.htm
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Rob Munach 28 April 2005 15:00:44 [ permanent link ]
	Mark H wrote:>>The Hill Holder works by holding the brake-fluid pressure that you applied>>in the system as long as the clutch is held in , thereby keeping brakes>>engaged. The Hill Holder does not apply the brakes. Once the brake-fluid>>pressure is released, either by the Hill Holder valve or by letting the>>brake pedal up in normal situation, you must re-pressurize the system with>>the brake pedal.> So why doesn't the same apply when you're rolling to a stop?> If I put the clutch in and select neutral when coming down to a set of> lights, apply brakes, and then release the brakes while still holding in the> clutch, why doesn't my car continue to brake? Safety feature?> -mark> Try rolling backwards down a hill and then touch and release the brakes. They will stay engaged. The hill holder requires the nose of the vehicle to be up. -- Rob Munach, PE Excel Engineering PO Box 1264 Carrboro, NC 27510
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Pheasant 28 April 2005 15:30:02 [ permanent link ]
	"Poster" <Poster@home.com> wrote in message news:426ed694$0$23037$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...> Hi,> I'm curious to know. Let's say when I'm at the bottom of a hill, I start > my Forester in 1st gear and of course the hill holder will kick in to hold > the car until I release the clutch. However, when I depress the clutch > again to change to 2nd gear and I'm still climbing the hill, will the hill > holder kick in when depress the clutch? A Studebaker invention from the 50's!!!! Still amazes me that only Subaru picked up on it. Replaced my 86 GL's last summer, was leaking, thought about taking it out, but boy; they sure spoil you when it comes to hills.
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