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Re: Pulley change?

Ragnar 2 April 2005 00:17:18
 CompUser wrote:> In article <424caabf$1_1@127.0­.0.1>, > rworkss@comsouth.ne­t says...>
And I've seen a Subaru Tech memo that says the pulley was not designed >>and does not act *as* or *like* a harmonic balancer.>>
I'll try to find it and then post the link.>
Yes, I saw the link...someone posted that he > asked SOA, and SOA replied that it was not...no> "Subaru Tech memo".

Actually, I couldn't find the original memo so I linked to the
conversation that referenced it.

In any event, the little piece of rubber between the two halves of the
crank pulley isn't a harmonic balancer.
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Michael 2 April 2005 16:42:29 permanent link ]
 I had a af/x underdrive pully on my NT Eclipse. The stock pully on an
eclipse does work as a harmonic balancer. I never had an issue having it on
there, i put it on at 70k with a timing belt change and the car ran fine. I
traded it in on the WRX at 135k. I noticed a little improvment in power.


"Ragnar" <rworkss@comsouth.n­et> wrote in message
news:424da9f9$1_4@1­27.0.0.1...> CompUser wrote:> > In article <424caabf$1_1@127.0­.0.1>,> > rworkss@comsouth.ne­t says...> >
And I've seen a Subaru Tech memo that says the pulley was not designed> >>and does not act *as* or *like* a harmonic balancer.> >>
I'll try to find it and then post the link.> >
Yes, I saw the link...someone posted that he> > asked SOA, and SOA replied that it was not...no> > "Subaru Tech memo".>
Actually, I couldn't find the original memo so I linked to the> conversation that referenced it.>
In any event, the little piece of rubber between the two halves of the> crank pulley isn't a harmonic balancer.


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James 6 April 2005 03:56:05 permanent link ]
 i switched out my "03 wrx wagon pulley for a vishnu
alloy crank pulley myself-----relative­ly easy job.


yes it's much lighter, however the main advantage is
diameter (underdrive means easier to drive
compressor, alt, p/steering, --less effort but they do not
spin as fast either.
first question, will this affect p/steering, a/c, & alt
operation???
answer---no noticeable change, except more
power. after 2 years, i have had plenty of juice even at
idle, to operate all i need, however i've never been
the type to run stuff at idle that i do not need to be on.
the beauty of this is that power gain is at
ALL rpms, so driveabilty is better especially at lower
rpms where turbo is lagging. vishnu claims 5-10HP
which sounds about right.

jellymax


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Mike 6 April 2005 07:26:06 permanent link ]
 What do y'all think of this in comparison?

http://www.spdusa.c­om/pulley_kit.htm


"james" <jellymax@pcmagic.n­et> wrote in message
news:42532654_5@new­sfeed.slurp.net...>i­ switched out my "03 wrx wagon pulley for a vishnu> alloy crank pulley myself-----relative­ly easy job.>
yes it's much lighter, however the main advantage is> diameter (underdrive means easier to drive> compressor, alt, p/steering, --less effort but they do not> spin as fast either.> first question, will this affect p/steering, a/c, & alt> operation???> answer---no noticeable change, except more> power. after 2 years, i have had plenty of juice even at> idle, to operate all i need, however i've never been> the type to run stuff at idle that i do not need to be on.> the beauty of this is that power gain is at> ALL rpms, so driveabilty is better especially at lower> rpms where turbo is lagging. vishnu claims 5-10HP> which sounds about right.>
jellymax>


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Ragnar 6 April 2005 15:30:42 permanent link ]
 Mike wrote:> What do y'all think of this in comparison?>

I note that he doesn't address the issue that Subaru itself says the
crank pulley is not a harmonic balancer.
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Philip Procter 8 April 2005 07:17:55 permanent link ]
 There are light weight pulleys and underdrive pulleys.

The light weight pulley is used to reduce the rotating mass or inertia
of the motor so there is less resistance to rapid speed changes. That
can help race motors to respond faster. How much benefit there might
be on the street is questionable IMO.

The underdrive pulley reduces the speed that belt driven accessories
run. Alternators, AC compressors, etc use engine power and the slower
they run, the less power is lost driving them. The power increases are
smal;l but measurable, but there is a direct price to be paid. Your
accessories will not run as designed, eg: your alternator will put out
less amps and batteries will charge slower or you will have to turn
down your 3000watt stereo.

Philip

On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 10:40:46 -0500, "jsteve1109"
<jsteve1109@rogers.­com> wrote:
Are there any benefits in going to a lightweight crank pulley. I'm coming >up for the 75000kms inspection on my 03 WRX and figure when have belt >changed can change pulley at same time. Any drawbacks to having lighter >pulley as well? Any makers better than others? >

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Edward Hayes 8 April 2005 18:06:52 permanent link ]
 Biggest advantage for a daily driver is looks and your quarter mile
time may improve .003 seconds.
"Philip Procter" <philip.procter@loc­tite.com> wrote in message
news:1ctb511p9afols­c1da4rf18rksb5tk74qm­@4ax.com...> There are light weight pulleys and underdrive pulleys.>
The light weight pulley is used to reduce the rotating mass or > inertia> of the motor so there is less resistance to rapid speed changes. > That> can help race motors to respond faster. How much benefit there might> be on the street is questionable IMO.>
The underdrive pulley reduces the speed that belt driven accessories> run. Alternators, AC compressors, etc use engine power and the > slower> they run, the less power is lost driving them. The power increases > are> smal;l but measurable, but there is a direct price to be paid. Your> accessories will not run as designed, eg: your alternator will put > out> less amps and batteries will charge slower or you will have to turn> down your 3000watt stereo.>
Philip>
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 10:40:46 -0500, "jsteve1109"> <jsteve1109@rogers.­com> wrote:>
Are there any benefits in going to a lightweight crank pulley. I'm >>coming>>up for the 75000kms inspection on my 03 WRX and figure when have >>belt>>changed can change pulley at same time. Any drawbacks to having >>lighter>>pulley as well? Any makers better than others?>>


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