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CarGuru > Open discussion > What's wrong with this GH? 13 April 2005 22:33:20

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What's wrong with this GH?

Mark Anderson 12 April 2005 18:27:59
 There's seems like alot amiss here. I'm definitely not an expert, but
I think that's a 58 grille. The body tag looks okay, but what's up
with the VIN number? Shouldn't that start with a 57 intead of a 61?

Still learning....

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Mark
65 Cruiser

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John Poulos 12 April 2005 18:34:38 permanent link ]
 Golden Hawk serial numbers were not 'date coded' 61000 series does not
have anything to do with the year. It does have a 58 grill badge, but
that'll only cost you $50 to replace with correct one.
Mark Anderson wrote:> There's seems like alot amiss here. I'm definitely not an expert, but> I think that's a 58 grille. The body tag looks okay, but what's up> with the VIN number? Shouldn't that start with a 57 intead of a 61?>
Still learning....>
Mark> 65 Cruiser>

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N8n 12 April 2005 18:35:18 permanent link ]
 
Mark Anderson wrote:> There's seems like alot amiss here. I'm definitely not an expert,
I think that's a 58 grille. The body tag looks okay, but what's up> with the VIN number? Shouldn't that start with a 57 intead of a 61?>
Still learning....>
<http://cgi.ebay.co­m/ebaymotors/ws/eBay­ISAPI.dll?ViewItem&r­d=1&item=4542824141&­category=6466>>
Mark> 65 Cruiser

that is a later grille as well as the side grilles but the SN may be
right. the body number is, anyway. I don't think they started putting
the year in the SN until a couple years later.

nate

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Mark Anderson 12 April 2005 19:40:21 permanent link ]
 I dig the GM door handles;)

Mark
John Poulos wrote:> Golden Hawk serial numbers were not 'date coded' 61000 series does
have anything to do with the year. It does have a 58 grill badge, but
that'll only cost you $50 to replace with correct one.> Mark Anderson wrote:> > There's seems like alot amiss here. I'm definitely not an expert,
I think that's a 58 grille. The body tag looks okay, but what's up> > with the VIN number? Shouldn't that start with a 57 intead of a
61?> >
Still learning....> >
<http://cgi.ebay.co­m/ebaymotors/ws/eBay­ISAPI.dll?ViewItem&r­d=1&item=4542824141&­category=6466>> >
Mark> > 65 Cruiser> >
--> JP/Maryland> Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com> My Ebay items:http://www.st­ude.com/EBAY/> 64 Challenger (Green Wrapper)> 63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk> 55 Speedster> 50 2R 10 truck

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John Poulos 12 April 2005 19:48:25 permanent link ]
 There are lots of detail issues, black gage bezels.
Mark Anderson wrote:> I dig the GM door handles;)>
Mark> John Poulos wrote:>
Golden Hawk serial numbers were not 'date coded' 61000 series does>
have anything to do with the year. It does have a 58 grill badge, but>
that'll only cost you $50 to replace with correct one.>>Mark Anderson wrote:>>
There's seems like alot amiss here. I'm definitely not an expert,>
I think that's a 58 grille. The body tag looks okay, but what's up>>>with the VIN number? Shouldn't that start with a 57 intead of a>
61?>
Still learning....>>>
Mark>>>65 Cruiser>>>
-->>JP/Maryland>>­Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com>>M­y Ebay items:http://www.st­ude.com/EBAY/>>64 Challenger (Green Wrapper)>>63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk>>55 Speedster>>50 2R 10 truck>

--
JP/Maryland
Studebaker On the Net http://stude.com
My Ebay items:http://www.st­ude.com/EBAY/
64 Challenger (Green Wrapper)
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
55 Speedster
50 2R 10 truck
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Malcom Gillette 12 April 2005 20:43:56 permanent link ]
 Its just plain scary underneath.
Malcom
"Mark Anderson" <65cruiser@mrstina.­com> wrote in message
news:1113316079.727­212.97240@g14g2000cw­a.googlegroups.com..­.> There's seems like alot amiss here. I'm definitely not an expert, but> I think that's a 58 grille. The body tag looks okay, but what's up> with the VIN number? Shouldn't that start with a 57 intead of a 61?>
Still learning....>
<http://cgi.ebay.co­m/ebaymotors/ws/eBay­ISAPI.dll?ViewItem&r­d=1&item=45428241
41&category=6466>>
Mark> 65 Cruiser>


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Barry 12 April 2005 21:17:18 permanent link ]
 it does look a bit salty underneath, & has just the type of underbody
corrosion which accompanies copious amounts of body filler in those
rust-prone areas.
"Malcom Gillette" <82muchmgillette1@c­ox.net> wrote in message
news:fVS6e.1505$H53­.881@lakeread05...> Its just plain scary underneath.> Malcom> "Mark Anderson" <65cruiser@mrstina.­com> wrote in message> news:1113316079.727­212.97240@g14g2000cw­a.googlegroups.com..­.> > There's seems like alot amiss here. I'm definitely not an expert, but> > I think that's a 58 grille. The body tag looks okay, but what's up> > with the VIN number? Shouldn't that start with a 57 intead of a 61?> >
Still learning....> >
<http://cgi.ebay.co­m/ebaymotors/ws/eBay­ISAPI.dll?ViewItem&r­d=1&item=45428241> 41&category=6466>> >
Mark> > 65 Cruiser> >


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Malcom Gillette 13 April 2005 02:32:18 permanent link ]
 Went back and read most of his feedback. Kinda poor track record, the most
used description in the negative feedbacks " Overstated car's condition". A
comedian couldn't write stuff like this.
Malcom
"Barry" <bhackney@houston.r­r.com> wrote in message
news:yoT6e.45705$ij­5.44982@tornado.texa­s.rr.com...> it does look a bit salty underneath, & has just the type of underbody> corrosion which accompanies copious amounts of body filler in those> rust-prone areas.> "Malcom Gillette" <82muchmgillette1@c­ox.net> wrote in message> news:fVS6e.1505$H53­.881@lakeread05...> > Its just plain scary underneath.> > Malcom> > "Mark Anderson" <65cruiser@mrstina.­com> wrote in message> > news:1113316079.727­212.97240@g14g2000cw­a.googlegroups.com..­.> > > There's seems like alot amiss here. I'm definitely not an expert, but> > > I think that's a 58 grille. The body tag looks okay, but what's up> > > with the VIN number? Shouldn't that start with a 57 intead of a 61?> > >
Still learning....> > >
<http://cgi.ebay.co­m/ebaymotors/ws/eBay­ISAPI.dll?ViewItem&r­d=1&item=45428241> > 41&category=6466>> > >
Mark> > > 65 Cruiser> > >


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Bondobilly 13 April 2005 07:18:16 permanent link ]
 Seems to me to have a lot of issues, and some of the photos start to ask
more questions.

One body mount looks shot, there is rust under the car, some expected some
not. The VIN plate looks as if someody was trying to pry off the tag,
possibly to put a new one on. What most folks don't know is that you can use
ACC and place the replacement or 2nd tag over the original and you would
never know it was there......... illeagel but looks good.

Other things that bothe me is the nose is too high, but that might be due to
spring replacement, the runst shown by the right fin down low could be a
major fix. The major glaring error is that the side grilles should have
those dummy chrome strips in them.

However, even at $15000 the car is a bargin unless there are hidden problems

BG


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Joe 13 April 2005 17:43:35 permanent link ]
 I could be wrong but I may have seen this car in northern Quebec a few years
ago - around Noranda. It had a similar interior and the same '58 medallion.
But its exterior colour was the GH metallic gold and white, not this 'kinda
gold' and white. It may have been repainted though. I never saw the
underside at the time.

I was told by an agent for the owners that it was originally owned by the
Studebaker dealer in Noranda and was passed down to his nephew who restored
it. They were asking $20,000 Canadian at the time. I offered her $12,000
upon closer inspection, but was turned down. A year later I asked about it
again and was told it had been sold to someone in the States for $12,000. Go
figure.

Now, I can't honestly say it is the same car, but it does look eerily close.

Joe.

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I neve


"Mark Anderson" <65cruiser@mrstina.­com> wrote in message
news:1113316079.727­212.97240@g14g2000cw­a.googlegroups.com..­.> There's seems like alot amiss here. I'm definitely not an expert, but> I think that's a 58 grille. The body tag looks okay, but what's up> with the VIN number? Shouldn't that start with a 57 intead of a 61?>
Still learning....>
Mark> 65 Cruiser>


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Mark Anderson 13 April 2005 22:33:20 permanent link ]
 According to the title, it looks like it spent most of it's life in
Ohio.

Mark
65 Cruiser
Joe wrote:> I could be wrong but I may have seen this car in northern Quebec a
few years> ago - around Noranda. It had a similar interior and the same '58
medallion.> But its exterior colour was the GH metallic gold and white, not this
'kinda> gold' and white. It may have been repainted though. I never saw the> underside at the time.>
I was told by an agent for the owners that it was originally owned by
Studebaker dealer in Noranda and was passed down to his nephew who
restored> it. They were asking $20,000 Canadian at the time. I offered her
$12,000> upon closer inspection, but was turned down. A year later I asked
about it> again and was told it had been sold to someone in the States for
$12,000. Go> figure.>
Now, I can't honestly say it is the same car, but it does look eerily
close.>
Joe.>
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I neve>
"Mark Anderson" <65cruiser@mrstina.­com> wrote in message> news:1113316079.727­212.97240@g14g2000cw­a.googlegroups.com..­.> > There's seems like alot amiss here. I'm definitely not an expert,
I think that's a 58 grille. The body tag looks okay, but what's up> > with the VIN number? Shouldn't that start with a 57 intead of a
61?> >
Still learning....> >
<http://cgi.ebay.co­m/ebaymotors/ws/eBay­ISAPI.dll?ViewItem&r­d=1&item=4542824141&­category=6466>> >
Mark> > 65 Cruiser> >

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