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Meyerso 3 May 2005 20:26:59
	this might sound like a stupid question... can anyone tell me where i can find my spark plugs? i have a 2001 alero, and i went to change the spark plugs this weekend, and i couldn't find them...granted i didn't unscrew anything to look, cause i had other things to do...but ya, if anyone could lend me a hand, i'd really appreciate it! thanks! Dave
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Darius 5 May 2005 12:02:59 [ permanent link ]
	Are you serious? Why would you attempt changing sparks when you don't know where they are. There's a lot more to changing them, than just finding them. You can damage the engine if you change them hot for example, or you'll get an awful gas mileage if you gap them improperly. I'd let a professional do it if you car has a V6. Otherwise it should be simple, and plugs should be right in front of your block. meyerso wrote: this might sound like a stupid question...> can anyone tell me where i can find my spark plugs? i have a 2001 alero,> and i went to change the spark plugs this weekend, and i couldn't find> them...granted i didn't unscrew anything to look, cause i had other things> to do...but ya, if anyone could lend me a hand, i'd really appreciate it!> thanks!> Dave
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Peter Watson 5 October 2005 15:33:33 [ permanent link ]
	For a 202b engine for a 1985 T16 (SPG) full turbo I want NGK plugs which should I buy NGK BCPR7EIX OR BCP6EV OR OTHER? -- Peter Watson
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Paul Halliday 6 October 2005 22:16:56 [ permanent link ]
	in article HVI7vgwdg8QDFw3o@pwwatson.demon.co.uk, Peter Watson at Peter@pwwatson.demon.co.uk wrote on 05/10/2005 13:33: For a 202b engine for a 1985 T16 (SPG) full turbo I want NGK plugs> which should I buy> NGK BCPR7EIX OR BCP6EV OR OTHER? BCP7EV! Accept no substitute. Since NGK no longer produce that plug, BCP7EVX is the replacement. Some people claim misfires at over 1 bar boost. Have a good look for the BCP7EV plug, though - there's still a lot on the market. Paul 1989 900 Turbo S http://saab.go.dyndns.org/
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Craig's Saab C900 Site 7 October 2005 00:40:26 [ permanent link ]
	Paul Halliday <pjgh@blueyonder.co.uk> writes: in article HVI7vgwdg8QDFw3o@pwwatson.demon.co.uk, Peter Watson at>Peter@pwwatson.demon.co.uk wrote on 05/10/2005 13:33: For a 202b engine for a 1985 T16 (SPG) full turbo I want NGK plugs>> which should I buy>> NGK BCPR7EIX OR BCP6EV OR OTHER? BCP7EV! Accept no substitute. Since NGK no longer produce that plug, BCP7EVX>is the replacement. Some people claim misfires at over 1 bar boost. Have a>good look for the BCP7EV plug, though - there's still a lot on the market. Would there be anything wrong with using a BCP7 plug in non-turbo engines in place of BCP6? I'm not sure what the difference is but I'm guessing it to do with materials and temp ratings, etc. Craig. -- Craig's Saab C900 Page --> http://lios.apana.org.au/~c900 Sydney, NSW Australia Craig's Classic Saab Workshop -- For Saab 99/C900/9000 Enthusiasts world-wide! http://www.saab900classic.net http://www.saab900.org c900@lios.apana.org.au Come and explore our site, and check out our web-forums, mailing list, etc.
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Peter Watson 9 October 2005 01:10:39 [ permanent link ]
	In message <BF6B36B6.16029%pjgh@blueyonder.co.uk>, Paul Halliday <pjgh@blueyonder.co.uk> writes>in article HVI7vgwdg8QDFw3o@pwwatson.demon.co.uk, Peter Watson at>Peter@pwwatson.demon.co.uk wrote on 05/10/2005 13:33:> For a 202b engine for a 1985 T16 (SPG) full turbo I want NGK plugs>> which should I buy>> NGK BCPR7EIX OR BCP6EV OR OTHER?> BCP7EV! Accept no substitute. Since NGK no longer produce that plug, BCP7EVX>is the replacement. Some people claim misfires at over 1 bar boost. Have a>good look for the BCP7EV plug, though - there's still a lot on the market.> Paul> 1989 900 Turbo S>http://saab.go.dyndns.org/> Thanks a lot. -- Peter Watson
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Chocolatelover 15 February 2006 02:53:29 [ permanent link ]
	I changed my sparks plugs and now it wont start. I don't know if my wires are in the right order. please help.
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Shep 15 February 2006 04:39:55 [ permanent link ]
	Are you kidding, what car/truck are we talking about here, how would we know what the right order is??? "chocolatelover" <sandra102665@aol.com> wrote in message news:26196e841f2d13607b2364acf5f3e408@localhost.talkaboutautos.com...>I changed my sparks plugs and now it wont start. I don't know if my wires> are in the right order.> please help.> ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----
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John Craker 15 February 2006 04:52:43 [ permanent link ]
	Giving SOME KIND OF HINT might help.... Is it a '50 Chev w a 232 straight 6? 2005 w/454? Somewhere inbetween? ;) "chocolatelover" <sandra102665@aol.com> wrote in message news:26196e841f2d13607b2364acf5f3e408@localhost.talkaboutautos.com...>I changed my sparks plugs and now it wont start. I don't know if my wires> are in the right order.> please help.>
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No One 15 February 2006 07:01:25 [ permanent link ]
	Shep wrote:> Are you kidding, what car/truck are we talking about here, how would we know > what the right order is??? you have to Relise that Sandra May have just gotten herself a NEW KEYBOARD for her computer and needed a NEWGROUP to test it.. "chocolatelover" <sandra102665@aol.com> wrote in message > news:26196e841f2d13607b2364acf5f3e408@localhost.talkaboutautos.com...> I changed my sparks plugs and now it wont start. I don't know if my wires>>are in the right order.>>please help.>> ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==----> http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups> ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----
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Larry and a Cat named Dub 20 February 2006 06:12:58 [ permanent link ]
	Looking for a cheap place to buy factory plugs for a 2001 Does any body know of one? $8.00 a plug seems awful stiff to me.
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Guest 20 February 2006 08:51:40 [ permanent link ]
	Why buy factory. Me, all my friends and most race car drivers use just good plugs. champion,autolight and so on. old john Hello, Larry! You wrote on Mon, 20 Feb 2006 03:12:58 GMT: Looking for a cheap place to buy factory plugs for a 2001 Laa> Does any body know of one? $8.00 a plug seems awful stiff to me. With best regards, ajeeperman@comcast.net. E-mail: ajeeperman@comcast.net
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Fred 25 July 2006 20:55:37 [ permanent link ]
	I have a 1987 cadillac fleetwood brougham (RWD), I have 7 spark plugs and wires done but there is that one I cannot get to screw in. Ive tried putting a tap to clean and refine the screw heads in the hole but it seemed not to work. I need help. What should I do
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Roy 25 July 2006 21:29:19 [ permanent link ]
	"Fred" <montreal_evans@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1153846537.770231.263400@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...>I have a 1987 cadillac fleetwood brougham (RWD), I have 7 spark plugs> and wires done but there is that one I cannot get to screw in. Ive> tried putting a tap to clean and refine the screw heads in the hole but> it seemed not to work. I need help. What should I do Ouch, where do you think that the stuff you dislodged went? First take a small magnet and try to clean up the debris. Perhaps put the old plug back in and take it to a repair shop before you damage things further.
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Al Bundy 26 July 2006 02:08:35 [ permanent link ]
	Fred wrote:> I have a 1987 cadillac fleetwood brougham (RWD), I have 7 spark plugs> and wires done but there is that one I cannot get to screw in. Ive> tried putting a tap to clean and refine the screw heads in the hole but> it seemed not to work. I need help. What should I do If the old plug came out without incident, the new one should have been started by hand for a couple turns before any tools were applied. You can have the plug in a socket when starting it by hand this way. You don't say what the original situation was. When you attempted to clean the threads with a tap or cleaner, you don't explain what you mean by it "seemed not to work." Did the tap not screw in? Did it screw in and then the plug still would not screw in? At this point I'm back full circle to trying to screw it in by hand. Do not force anything. Maybe you need to have another hand give it a try.
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Guest 26 July 2006 02:36:02 [ permanent link ]
	"Al Bundy" <MSfortune@mcpmail.com> wrote in message news:1153865314.950613.261980@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...> When you attempted to clean the threads with a tap or cleaner, you> don't explain what you mean by it "seemed not to work." Did the tap not> screw in? Did it screw in and then the plug still would not screw in?> At this point I'm back full circle to trying to screw it in by hand. Do> not force anything. Maybe you need to have another hand give it a try. This is taking on ominous overtones... If you run a thread chaser in the hole the plug should go on in UNLESS you have put the thread chaser in crooked and finished removing the threads. Now, sometimes if you don't have a plug oriented just exactly right, the threads wont catch. So try again, gently, with the new plug. Sometimes the angle of the plug with respect to the bore is critical...This is a job for a lover, not a fighter.
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Brian 26 July 2006 02:37:05 [ permanent link ]
	"Al Bundy" <MSfortune@mcpmail.com> wrote in message news:1153865314.950613.261980@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...> Fred wrote:>> I have a 1987 cadillac fleetwood brougham (RWD), I have 7 spark plugs>> and wires done but there is that one I cannot get to screw in. Ive>> tried putting a tap to clean and refine the screw heads in the hole but>> it seemed not to work. I need help. What should I do> If the old plug came out without incident, the new one should have been> started by hand for a couple turns before any tools were applied. You> can have the plug in a socket when starting it by hand this way. You> don't say what the original situation was.> When you attempted to clean the threads with a tap or cleaner, you> don't explain what you mean by it "seemed not to work." Did the tap not> screw in? Did it screw in and then the plug still would not screw in?> At this point I'm back full circle to trying to screw it in by hand. Do> not force anything. Maybe you need to have another hand give it a try.> and if all else fails, you may have to pull the head and install a helicoil kit on that plug port.
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Tim 26 July 2006 03:50:28 [ permanent link ]
	Sounds like he should pull the head and clean the debris from the tap. "Brian" <brianarc@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:12cd78e4to7pc4b@corp.supernews.com...> "Al Bundy" <MSfortune@mcpmail.com> wrote in message > news:1153865314.950613.261980@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...>> Fred wrote:>>> I have a 1987 cadillac fleetwood brougham (RWD), I have 7 spark plugs>>> and wires done but there is that one I cannot get to screw in. Ive>>> tried putting a tap to clean and refine the screw heads in the hole but>>> it seemed not to work. I need help. What should I do>> If the old plug came out without incident, the new one should have been>> started by hand for a couple turns before any tools were applied. You>> can have the plug in a socket when starting it by hand this way. You>> don't say what the original situation was.>> When you attempted to clean the threads with a tap or cleaner, you>> don't explain what you mean by it "seemed not to work." Did the tap not>> screw in? Did it screw in and then the plug still would not screw in?>> At this point I'm back full circle to trying to screw it in by hand. Do>> not force anything. Maybe you need to have another hand give it a try.>> and if all else fails, you may have to pull the head and install a > helicoil kit on that plug port.>
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Olaf 30 July 2006 22:41:31 [ permanent link ]
	"Fred" <montreal_evans@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1153846537.770231.263400@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...>I have a 1987 cadillac fleetwood brougham (RWD), I have 7 spark plugs> and wires done but there is that one I cannot get to screw in. Ive> tried putting a tap to clean and refine the screw heads in the hole but> it seemed not to work. I need help. What should I do> If you get to where you try putting the plug in again, try putting vacuum hose on the top of the plug and use that to turn the plug in and start the threads. It's gentle and won't allow you to strip the threads, plus you can feel things line up fairly well using that method.
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Prof_pat_pending 6 August 2006 22:35:15 [ permanent link ]
	i have just upgraded my ignition system with a Pertronix Ignitor,flame thrower coil and some 8mm leads i've read that you can enlarge the gap on the spark plug. can some one tell me what to extend the gap to or is it case of trial and error
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Mabar 31 October 2006 05:46:52 [ permanent link ]
	Ok, I'm confused. Today I ordered 6-Autolite double platinum spark plugs for my '06 Rubicon. According to the auto parts store, and the Autolite website, the '06 Rubi takes part #APP5224, and that is what I ordered. They are due in tomorrow. Upon searching the web tonight, I found that according to partsamerica.com and autolite.com the '05 and earlier 6cyl - 4.0L Wranglers take part #APP985. #APP985 or # APP5224. Both are Autolite Double Platinum. What is the difference? My hood sticker says use NKG ZFR5N, and that is listed as the correct plug for '06, '05, and earlier 6cyl - 4L Wranglers. Why would the Autolite Double Platinum Plugs be different for the '06? Tom
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Carl 31 October 2006 08:27:00 [ permanent link ]
	I agree. The 4.0 likes nothing better than the Copper Champs or the NGK's. Fancy plugs are a waste of money. Carl "Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message news:gradnVfy98RAWdvYnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@softcom.net...> Could just be a catalog# change - carmakers do this all the time; it's > possible they're the same plug, just different numbers.> Why change the plugs on an '06 already? And why expensive double-plats? I > use the $0.69 cent Champion Coppers and they work great. I've also used > these on other cars with ground-to-anode firing designs and they worked > well there too.> I've got this buddy that buys $8.00 specialty plugs for his Honda, and he > swears it adds 20 hp. Balderdash!
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Hdd 1 November 2006 01:47:39 [ permanent link ]
	Why bother? Still have the factory plugs in our '99 JGC...... @fastmail.fm> wrote in message news:454686e8_5@newsfeed.slurp.net...> Ok, I'm confused. Today I ordered 6-Autolite double platinum spark plugs my '06 Rubicon. According to the auto parts store, and the Autolite website,> the '06 Rubi takes part #APP5224, and that is what I ordered. They are due> in tomorrow.> Upon searching the web tonight, I found that according to partsamerica.com> and autolite.com the '05 and earlier 6cyl - 4.0L Wranglers take part> #APP985.> #APP985 or # APP5224. Both are Autolite Double Platinum. What is the> difference?> My hood sticker says use NKG ZFR5N, and that is listed as the correct plug> for '06, '05, and earlier 6cyl - 4L Wranglers. Why would the Autolite Double> Platinum Plugs be different for the '06?>
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Billy Ray 1 November 2006 01:58:59 [ permanent link ]
	That is just plain silly... sparkplugs certainly last longer than they did back-in-the-day but 7-8 years? "hdd" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:foQ1h.6784$tb6.4907@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com...> Why bother? Still have the factory plugs in our '99 JGC......> @fastmail.fm> wrote in message news:454686e8_5@newsfeed.slurp.net...>> Ok, I'm confused. Today I ordered 6-Autolite double platinum spark plugs> for>> my '06 Rubicon. According to the auto parts store, and the Autolite> website,>> the '06 Rubi takes part #APP5224, and that is what I ordered. They are >> due>> in tomorrow.>> Upon searching the web tonight, I found that according to >> partsamerica.com>> and autolite.com the '05 and earlier 6cyl - 4.0L Wranglers take part>> #APP985.>> #APP985 or # APP5224. Both are Autolite Double Platinum. What is the>> difference?>> My hood sticker says use NKG ZFR5N, and that is listed as the correct >> plug>> for '06, '05, and earlier 6cyl - 4L Wranglers. Why would the Autolite> Double>> Platinum Plugs be different for the '06?>>
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L.W. Hughes III 1 November 2006 01:58:59 [ permanent link ]
	http://www.billhughes.com/lubeSchedule.pdf God Bless America, Bill O\|\|\|\|\|\|\|O mailto:LWHughes3rd@aol.com hdd wrote:> Why bother? Still have the factory plugs in our '99 JGC......
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Mabar 1 November 2006 05:20:39 [ permanent link ]
	I cancelled the order for the Autolite Double Platinum and went with the OEM, NGK-ZFR5N plugs that the engine came with. Service manual calls for changing the plugs at 30,000 miles. I have about 23000 miles on it now and I know I am changing them early. Tom "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message news:vI2dnQEFa4M-Q9vYnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@comcast.com...> I agree. The 4.0 likes nothing better than the Copper Champs or the NGK's.> Fancy plugs are a waste of money.> Carl> "Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message> news:gradnVfy98RAWdvYnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@softcom.net...> > Could just be a catalog# change - carmakers do this all the time; it's> > possible they're the same plug, just different numbers.> > Why change the plugs on an '06 already? And why expensive double-plats? use the $0.69 cent Champion Coppers and they work great. I've also used> > these on other cars with ground-to-anode firing designs and they worked> > well there too.> > I've got this buddy that buys $8.00 specialty plugs for his Honda, and swears it adds 20 hp. Balderdash!>
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Dave Milne 1 November 2006 14:50:03 [ permanent link ]
	HDD have you ever checked them ? My view is that if you have to pull the plugs to see if they are ok, you might as well screw new ones back in. Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:84f9f$4547dc1f$422afc51$1599@FUSE.NET...> That is just plain silly... sparkplugs certainly last longer than they back-in-the-day but 7-8 years?> "hdd" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message> news:foQ1h.6784$tb6.4907@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com...> > Why bother? Still have the factory plugs in our '99 JGC......
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Philthy 2 November 2006 01:40:35 [ permanent link ]
	get the ngkl there are a far better plug i have to replace autolites all the time for fouling out and setting misfire codes that customers install on their own mabar wrote: Ok, I'm confused. Today I ordered 6-Autolite double platinum spark plugs for> my '06 Rubicon. According to the auto parts store, and the Autolite website,> the '06 Rubi takes part #APP5224, and that is what I ordered. They are due> in tomorrow.> Upon searching the web tonight, I found that according to partsamerica.com> and autolite.com the '05 and earlier 6cyl - 4.0L Wranglers take part> #APP985.> #APP985 or # APP5224. Both are Autolite Double Platinum. What is the> difference?> My hood sticker says use NKG ZFR5N, and that is listed as the correct plug> for '06, '05, and earlier 6cyl - 4L Wranglers. Why would the Autolite Double> Platinum Plugs be different for the '06?> Tom
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Mabar 2 November 2006 01:40:35 [ permanent link ]
	I got the OEM NGK ZFR5N that the hood sticker calls for. Tom "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message news:45493F0C.70AC3BC2@cac.net...> get the ngkl there are a far better plug> i have to replace autolites all the time for fouling out and setting misfire> codes that customers install on their own> mabar wrote:>
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Outatime 2 November 2006 05:26:26 [ permanent link ]
	Thomas Waldron wrote: Odd that a guy who changes his coolant out twice a year and does oil > changes before 600 miles, and spark plugs every 3500 miles, would > consider an extra buck or so per spark plug a waste of money. Wow!! > > I've got dibs on Outatime's Jeep!! LOL! After posting, I discovered the irony. The point I wanted to make was that a $1.00 copper plug won't perform any better or last any longer than a $8.00 double-plat when changed out yearly. I'd much rather spend that extra money on increased oil change intervals, 2X/yr. coolant changes, and that sort of thing. I will tell you though, after 2 years, it still looks and runs like new. I use only M1 synthetic, PureOne filters, and Zerex G-05 coolant with distilled water. If you pop the hood, the engine absolutely sparkles. Zero corrosion or residue in the radiator. I even go to the trouble of 'priming' the engine to full running pressure before firing after an oil/filter change. (No one ever does this anymore.) Whoever gets this wonderful TJL after I'm done with it will be very happy indeed.
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Thomas Waldron 2 November 2006 14:45:28 [ permanent link ]
	Outatime wrote:> Thomas Waldron wrote:> Odd that a guy who changes his coolant out twice a year and does oil >> changes before 600 miles, and spark plugs every 3500 miles, would >> consider an extra buck or so per spark plug a waste of money. Wow!! >> >> I've got dibs on Outatime's Jeep!!> LOL! After posting, I discovered the irony. The point I wanted to make > was that a $1.00 copper plug won't perform any better or last any longer > than a $8.00 double-plat when changed out yearly. I'd much rather spend > that extra money on increased oil change intervals, 2X/yr. coolant > changes, and that sort of thing.> I will tell you though, after 2 years, it still looks and runs like new. > I use only M1 synthetic, PureOne filters, and Zerex G-05 coolant with > distilled water. If you pop the hood, the engine absolutely sparkles. > Zero corrosion or residue in the radiator. I even go to the trouble of > 'priming' the engine to full running pressure before firing after an > oil/filter change. (No one ever does this anymore.) Whoever gets this > wonderful TJL after I'm done with it will be very happy indeed.> I knew what you meant, just thought it was funny. ....and like I said, "DIBS!!" ;) tw -- _____________________________________________________________________ 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'." Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940 Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II. _____________________________________________________________________
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Mabar 2 November 2006 16:15:57 [ permanent link ]
	Wow! You change your coolant twice a year? In your original email I thought you said bi-yearly, and I thought that meant every other year. I just changed the coolant on my one year old '06 Wrangler, and I plan to change it once a year, every fall in the future. It seems like twice a year is way overkill. The OEM, NGK-ZFR5N plugs that I finally bought are $2.98 each. http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductDetail.aspx?mfrcode=NGK&mfrpartnumber=3459&parttype=960&ptset=A Tom "Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message news:ZLadnd7mlolPytTYnZ2dnUVZ_vmdnZ2d@softcom.net... snip> LOL! After posting, I discovered the irony. The point I wanted to make> was that a $1.00 copper plug won't perform any better or last any longer> than a $8.00 double-plat when changed out yearly. I'd much rather spend> that extra money on increased oil change intervals, 2X/yr. coolant> changes, and that sort of thing.> I will tell you though, after 2 years, it still looks and runs like new.> I use only M1 synthetic, PureOne filters, and Zerex G-05 coolant with> distilled water. If you pop the hood, the engine absolutely sparkles.> Zero corrosion or residue in the radiator. I even go to the trouble of> 'priming' the engine to full running pressure before firing after an> oil/filter change. (No one ever does this anymore.) Whoever gets this> wonderful TJL after I'm done with it will be very happy indeed.>
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Outatime 3 November 2006 02:23:24 [ permanent link ]
	mabar wrote: Wow! You change your coolant twice a year? In your original email I thought> you said bi-yearly, and I thought that meant every other year. I just> changed the coolant on my one year old '06 Wrangler, and I plan to change it> once a year, every fall in the future. It seems like twice a year is way> overkill.> The OEM, NGK-ZFR5N plugs that I finally bought are $2.98 each. I may have misspoke; I meant bi-annually, or 2X/yr. In another vehicle, I changed it yearly, and was surprised at the junk that came out. I've always been of the opinion that OEM technical writers generally understate realistic maintenance intervals for the sake of increased vehicle sales. Conspiricy theorists will probably agree with me too. $20 bucks for a set of plugs isn't bad. If you place the OEM next to a Champion 438, they're nearly identical. I've used the Champion 4412 Truck Plugs which use beefier electrodes than OEM's, but that's the only difference I could see. In the real world, the gap eroded and worn just as much as any other plug I've used.
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Billy Ray 3 November 2006 07:09:06 [ permanent link ]
	What coolant are you using twice a year? "Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message news:68-dnXY4LvYOBtfYnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@softcom.net...> mabar wrote:> Wow! You change your coolant twice a year? In your original email I >> thought>> you said bi-yearly, and I thought that meant every other year. I just>> changed the coolant on my one year old '06 Wrangler, and I plan to change >> it>> once a year, every fall in the future. It seems like twice a year is way>> overkill.>> The OEM, NGK-ZFR5N plugs that I finally bought are $2.98 each.> I may have misspoke; I meant bi-annually, or 2X/yr. In another vehicle, I > changed it yearly, and was surprised at the junk that came out. I've > always been of the opinion that OEM technical writers generally understate > realistic maintenance intervals for the sake of increased vehicle sales. > Conspiricy theorists will probably agree with me too.> $20 bucks for a set of plugs isn't bad. If you place the OEM next to a > Champion 438, they're nearly identical. I've used the Champion 4412 Truck > Plugs which use beefier electrodes than OEM's, but that's the only > difference I could see. In the real world, the gap eroded and worn just > as much as any other plug I've used.
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Mabar 4 November 2006 01:47:21 [ permanent link ]
	I think bi-annual means every other year Semi-annual would be twice per year. In any event, it sounds like you take GREAT care of your Jeep! Tom "Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message news:68-dnXY4LvYOBtfYnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@softcom.net...> mabar wrote:> Wow! You change your coolant twice a year? In your original email I thought> > you said bi-yearly, and I thought that meant every other year. I just> > changed the coolant on my one year old '06 Wrangler, and I plan to change it> > once a year, every fall in the future. It seems like twice a year is way> > overkill.> > The OEM, NGK-ZFR5N plugs that I finally bought are $2.98 each.> I may have misspoke; I meant bi-annually, or 2X/yr. In another vehicle,> I changed it yearly, and was surprised at the junk that came out. I've> always been of the opinion that OEM technical writers generally> understate realistic maintenance intervals for the sake of increased> vehicle sales. Conspiricy theorists will probably agree with me too.> $20 bucks for a set of plugs isn't bad. If you place the OEM next to a> Champion 438, they're nearly identical. I've used the Champion 4412> Truck Plugs which use beefier electrodes than OEM's, but that's the only> difference I could see. In the real world, the gap eroded and worn just> as much as any other plug I've used.
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Mabar 5 November 2006 23:40:35 [ permanent link ]
	Ok, got it. Tom "Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message news:Kd2dnQ4BcNvhmNHYnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@softcom.net... mabar wrote: I think bi-annual means every other year> Semi-annual would be twice per year.> In any event, it sounds like you take GREAT care of your Jeep! This is interesting. I'm a JC Comp Honor's student, so this is right up my alley. And I have a copy of the AH Dictionary and an old copy of the MLA handy, so here goes: bi an nu al (b-ny-l) "bi-annually" [P] adj. 1. Happening twice each year; semiannual. 2. Occurring every two years; biennial. This source cited from MLA: "bi-annually." The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition. Houghton Mifflin Company, 2004. 03 Nov. 2006. <Dictionary.com http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bi-annually> So, it appears that the term "semiannual" refers to an occurance 2X/yr. Biennial refers to an event that happens every 2 years. And finally, the term "bi-annual" can refer to either term. "bi-annually" refers to an event that occurs twice a year, to wit: biannually adv : twice a year; "we hold our big sale biannually" (cited from same source) So, technically, when I say that change the coolant bi-annually, it refers to a change that occurs two times per year. Class dismissed. And yes, I take good care of my horse. I'll probably keep it forever, so don't get any ideas!
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Newman 15 March 2007 05:29:17 [ permanent link ]
	What is the correct Motorcraft spark plug for 2000 Limited 5.0 V8? I will probably use Motorcrafts; the originals have given me good service. Is it SP432 (Autozone shows this) or AWSF-32EE (owners manual shows this)? Thanks.
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C. E. White 15 March 2007 17:31:48 [ permanent link ]
	"newman" <stevef74dummy@verizon.net> wrote in message news:Nj1Kh.1416$Eg4.522@trnddc03... What is the correct Motorcraft spark plug for 2000 Limited 5.0 V8? I will probably use Motorcrafts; the originals have given me good service. Is it SP432 (Autozone shows this) or AWSF-32EE (owners manual shows this)? According to the on line Motorcraft Catalog ( http://www.motorcraft.com/catalog.do ) you have two choices: 1) SP413 Suppressor Spark Plug PREMIUM NICKEL ALLOY - .054 GAP 2) SP432 Suppressor Spark Plug PLATINUM FINEWIRE - .054 GAP I'd go with the SP432 Platinum Plugs. AWSF-32EE is the old style Ford/Motorcraft P/N for the SP432 plugs. These are double platinum plugs. I have no idea why Ford changes numbers so frequently. When you pull your old plugs out of the engine, don't be surprised if they have a different number, and the number is different on the left and right banks. The OE plugs were single platinum and only had platinum on the electrode where it was needed (this is for engines with waste spark ignition). The replacement plugs will be double platinum so that you don't have to worry about mixing the plugs up. Ed
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Quiggles 26 March 2007 05:01:53 [ permanent link ]
	Both numbers are the same, sp432 is the new number. I am a parts/service manger at a ford dealership, for is changing the numbers on their plugs
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