Anyone care to estimate how many examples of the aforementioned model> survive? Of these, how many are assumed to be driveable, or at least

How much is one worth in immaculate original (albeit repainted) condition?>

Thank you kindly,> - DAIMLERMAN> SI DD6 VdP, Majestic Major,> 420/Sovereign, DS420x2>

As for value, Jaguar world lists a showroom/mint condition Jaguar XJ12> Series I at about 9,000 pounds. Surprisingly, that is less than a> Jaguar/Daimler 420 valued at 15,000 GBP and a 3.8 S-Type at 25,000GBP.

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As for value, Jaguar world lists a showroom/mint condition Jaguar XJ12> Series I at about 9,000 pounds. Surprisingly, that is less than a> Jaguar/Daimler 420 valued at 15,000 GBP and a 3.8 S-Type at 25,000GBP. Even> the Mark X comes in better at 10,000GBP. A surprise considering the low> number of vehicles built!! I would think the Daimler version to be about> the same.>

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Interesting price on the 420g> here in the pacific I have one (1968) undergoing a resto ..> paint and interior to go .

NADA lists as Pristine 1967 420 with an Automatic transmission at around> $16,500USD and I even think that may be high. There value for a pristine> 1968 420G in pristine shape and an automatic transmission is about> $19,500USD.>

Take it for what it is worth!!>

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considering what it's costing sounds about right..> nice new white duco and dark red leather in wire spokes..> nice recromed most every thing and a couple of hundred hours in the> little things and every bit of wood hand rubbed and refinished

considering what it's costing sounds about right..> nice new white duco and dark red leather in wire spokes..> nice recromed most every thing and a couple of hundred hours in the> little things and every bit of wood hand rubbed and refinished

As for value, Jaguar world lists a showroom/mint condition Jaguar XJ12> Series I at about 9,000 pounds.

S1 Jags/Daims have been enjoying a slight upswing in values recently and > especially the VdP's. I am jealous because I have a S2 66 VdP (see > website) and they are static. I know the S1 is a nice car, but I prefer the > S2's front-end and the better brakes/steering/air­con makes a lot of > difference in the driving experience.>

I have only seen about 2 or 3 S1 66VdP's. There were around 1,700 S2 66 > VdP's built and I only know of 11 in the UK, 2 in AUS, 2 in EUR, and 1 in > Japan.>

One thing to remember is that Vanden Plas were hand-finished and body/paint > would be better protected. Series 2 Jags were built in the Leyland era, and > were renowned for badly fitting panels etc. from the factory but Vanden Plas > coachbuilders would have rejected or rectified any such faults. In any > case, I reckon any surviving Jags/Daims have had all these problems sorted > by now and should not be spurned for that reason. I'm just hoping the S2's > will soon be appreciated for what they are - better to drive than the series > 1 and a purer design than the square-roof series 3. ...............ok, > shoot me down!! ­

When I re-built my 420 I refused to find myself in the future placing a> "will take 1/2 what I have into it" ad in order to sell the car.>

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The only problem and the reason I got rid of it... okay, two reasons. The > first is that I was commuting for an hour each way, petrol was costing > about Ј35 per day [translates into $77 CDN]. the second is that I was > getting the typical Jag rust for series 3: back of the tail, just where > the boot lid connects and in the headlamp curves/sockets. I had been > spending thousands of pounds at Jag dealers getting it back to the > original spec and just gave up.>

There are times when I feel as though this is comparable to giving up on > my '67 Mustang when the transmission went. I think I probably get an > award for give-aways and short-sightedness.>­

But the series 3 is still, to my mind, the best Jag ever produced... > including the earlier sport models... Okay, rescinding that statement...> there is the series of Jags immediately post-war... I'd easily trade my > ex-wife for one of those, but so would any other guy that knew her well.>

cheers,> Doug Schulek-Miller

geared S1).>

Me, I am happy with the SI. IMHO Better looking (interior and more > imposing> front), the V12s have vented> discs anyway, and steering racks can be substituted, though I do love the> ultra light steering of a SI.>

Even here in Australia, a SIII without a touch of screen rust is a rarity.>

"ADIPaul" <adipaul@pclarkson.­plus.com> wrote in message> news:426322b2$0$423­17$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp­-reader02.plus.net..­.>> Doug,>> I didn't say the S2 was a better driver than the S3 because the S3 has >> the>> same brakes (some even have ABS) and the steering is geared slightly> better>> (although some prefer the slightly lower geared S2 - but I HATE the VERY> low>> geared S1).>>

different and the front calipers have an extra pot. The series 2 has a> collapsible steering column, but not sure about the S1. Also, the S2 has> door beams, again, not sure about the S1. S2 Air cond. is definitely> better - useful in AUS!! Aside from modern air-bags, as a 30year old car,> they were pretty advanced for safety features.>

Can't say I've noticed any problem whatsoever with rigidty on S2, except> that all of the series need those cross braces in the engine compartment

if you're considering stiffer shocks, then some extra welding around the> front shock mountings is advisable.>

Another reason I like the older cars is their (relative) simplicity -

If you had a "racing modified V12" I presume it had a flat head engine > installed as they are the only engine suitable for racing modifications. If > so, you can expect to have much higher consumption than the usual carb or FI > engine and much, much higher than the HE S3. Mine is a flat head and > carb'd, but I have made some ignition mods and get around 20 -22mpg at > 70-75ish .>

Well conditioned and supple leather can hold you as much as cloth, but it's > rare to find such leather in an old car. I can understand you parting with > it when commuting like that with such a fuel guzzling V12. Perhaps leaving > the engine standard and installing a manual box would have been wiser. > Probably better performance with economy. Best thing to do with any V12.>

Front wings rotting over the lights is common on all the series, but the S3 > also has bad rusting around the windscreen and rear window which is > expensive to repair. The S1 and S2 don't have that problem at all. My cars > rust problems are well-documented on my website. The S3 should be a better > car... natural progression, but the difference isn't as great as it is > between the S1/S2. Don't get me wrong, I love 'em all, but I prefer Sir > William Lyons original roofline to the Guigaro version.>

However, are we talking about the same cars? S1/2/3 XJ's never had any > "Sport" models, or do you mean the S2 2 door XJ Coupe?>

Post-war were good looking cars, but not really up to modern traffic without > upgrades.>

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