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Re: Twisted nipple (was broken nipple)

Zorin Inc. 10 April 2005 22:30:28
 I WISH I could afford another car now, got my vette and wife got a new Jeep
Grand Cherokee to get groceries in the mud. lol The rest of the system
could take more pressure sure, but I'm just not too sure about the reservoir
where the power bleeder hooks up, that part isn't usually pressurized. 15#
is plenty for a good steady fluid flow either way. Calipers are gonna cost
me $60 per side in the front, and they probably won't take the core from the
front right one due to the twisted nipple, so that might be $100 for that
one. Just looking at Eckler's prices for rebuilt.

"Bob G." <rg327_remove_@adel­phia.net> wrote in message
news:if9i51lni3h264­ndcct45tbk6vmqujis5n­@4ax.com...> On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 05:59:40 -0400, "Zorin Inc." <ZorinInc@cox.net>>­ wrote:>
Well, I tried bleeding the brakes the other day on my 95. I had the>>pressure bleeder at 15psi on the reservoir, taking my time, did the rear,>>flushed all the old 10 year old crap out of the lines. Got both the rear>>calipers done, did the front left, the nipple was tight as hell but got >>her>>done, moved to the front right, and <*SNAP*> the nipple broke off in the>>caliper. AAAARRRGGHHHH!!! Went to Sears, bought an easy-out, drilled the>>hole a little bigger, soaked it with penetrating oil, and snapped the easy>>out! After trying to drill THAT out I give up. Looks like I'm just going>>to have to replace the front calipers. One thing I thought was strange >>was>>the order the book said to bleed them in, left rear, right rear, left >>front,>>right front. I'm going to replace both the front calipers while I'm at >>it,>>probably switch to stainless flex lines too all the way around just for >>the>>hell of it. Another weekend project. When any of my other cars break I >>get>>pissed, when this thing breaks I look at it like "oh boy, I get to work on>>the vette!" lol :)­>>
===================­====> My question is....why only 15 pounds of pressure in the bleeder tank?> I have been using between 20 and 25 which I think is the amount> specified in the manual ...(is the C4 only 15 #'s)>
My only advice is to buy FOUR more Corvettes so you can own 5 like I> do... you honestly will be able to say Oh Boy I can work on "a" vette> every day.... lol>
I say this because there is something small wrong with each of the> cars 99 percent of the time... never much but it sure keeps me> busy...BUT like you I enjoy the time in the garages...>
I am putting calibers on my 76 ..and while I did not break the nipple> I did break the fitting from the solid fuel line...just like you it> just snapped...only 15 bucks and a 80 mile drive to pick up another> fuel line...>
Drove my 95 to pick up the line, yesterday morning, took the 64> out last evening for the local Saturday night Cruise, in a few minutes> I will dust the 72 off and head down the road to check out the cars at> a Corvette Only show ...>
Great weekend ....3 cars out of the garage for the 1st time since last> year... and a few minutes spent Breaking the 76.... Grass looks like> it should be cut ...high lumps here and there etc...but that will have> to wait....,>
Bob Griffiths> 68 SS 396 Chevelle> 64 72 76 79 & 95 Corvettes


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Tom in Missouri 10 April 2005 23:57:41 permanent link ]
 If you have a drill press, you are in luck. If not, a steady hand will get
you out of a lot of trouble.

Get a new bleeder or remove one from the other side. You need it to size a
drill bit.

Buy a reverse drill bit. Most people have no idea what this is, but it is
simple, it is a drill bit that cuts in reverse. It is NOT an easy out.
Those things are a curse on mechanics. Being hardened, they tend to snap
rather than twist and let you know they have gone too far. If they twisted,
you could back them out. Instead, they snap and leave a hardened bit in
there that is really hard to drill out.

Reverse drill bits can be found at some mom & pop hardware stores, and at
specialty fastener stores. You won't find them at Wal-Mart, Home Depot,
etc.

Use some grease on the bit and drill as slowly as you can. The grease will
collect the chips and keep the caliper clean. Slow drilling will let you
not snap a bit, too. Drill slightly under the thread size of the hole.

Go to Sears and get a rethreading kit. These are NOT taps, but a rethreader
which looks like a self-tapping bolt or a bolt with lengthwise cuts across
the threads.

Patience and you are there.

If worse comes to worse, you can redrill slightly larger and tap for the
next size up bleeder, available at places like NAPA. Be sure to get the
next size up BEFORE you drill, because they are not available in every
fraction of an inch.


"Zorin Inc." <ZorinInc@cox.net> wrote in message
news:Ede6e.1005$5J3­.540@lakeread01...> I WISH I could afford another car now, got my vette and wife got a new
Jeep> Grand Cherokee to get groceries in the mud. lol The rest of the system> could take more pressure sure, but I'm just not too sure about the
reservoir> where the power bleeder hooks up, that part isn't usually pressurized.
15#> is plenty for a good steady fluid flow either way. Calipers are gonna
cost> me $60 per side in the front, and they probably won't take the core from
front right one due to the twisted nipple, so that might be $100 for that> one. Just looking at Eckler's prices for rebuilt.>
"Bob G." <rg327_remove_@adel­phia.net> wrote in message> news:if9i51lni3h264­ndcct45tbk6vmqujis5n­@4ax.com...> > On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 05:59:40 -0400, "Zorin Inc." <ZorinInc@cox.net>>­ > wrote:> >
Well, I tried bleeding the brakes the other day on my 95. I had the> >>pressure bleeder at 15psi on the reservoir, taking my time, did the
rear,> >>flushed all the old 10 year old crap out of the lines. Got both the
rear> >>calipers done, did the front left, the nipple was tight as hell but got> >>her> >>done, moved to the front right, and <*SNAP*> the nipple broke off in the> >>caliper. AAAARRRGGHHHH!!! Went to Sears, bought an easy-out, drilled
hole a little bigger, soaked it with penetrating oil, and snapped the
easy> >>out! After trying to drill THAT out I give up. Looks like I'm just
going> >>to have to replace the front calipers. One thing I thought was strange> >>was> >>the order the book said to bleed them in, left rear, right rear, left> >>front,> >>right front. I'm going to replace both the front calipers while I'm at> >>it,> >>probably switch to stainless flex lines too all the way around just for> >>the> >>hell of it. Another weekend project. When any of my other cars break I> >>get> >>pissed, when this thing breaks I look at it like "oh boy, I get to work
the vette!" lol :)­> >>
===================­====> > My question is....why only 15 pounds of pressure in the bleeder tank?> > I have been using between 20 and 25 which I think is the amount> > specified in the manual ...(is the C4 only 15 #'s)> >
My only advice is to buy FOUR more Corvettes so you can own 5 like I> > do... you honestly will be able to say Oh Boy I can work on "a" vette> > every day.... lol> >
I say this because there is something small wrong with each of the> > cars 99 percent of the time... never much but it sure keeps me> > busy...BUT like you I enjoy the time in the garages...> >
I am putting calibers on my 76 ..and while I did not break the nipple> > I did break the fitting from the solid fuel line...just like you it> > just snapped...only 15 bucks and a 80 mile drive to pick up another> > fuel line...> >
Drove my 95 to pick up the line, yesterday morning, took the 64> > out last evening for the local Saturday night Cruise, in a few minutes> > I will dust the 72 off and head down the road to check out the cars at> > a Corvette Only show ...> >
Great weekend ....3 cars out of the garage for the 1st time since last> > year... and a few minutes spent Breaking the 76.... Grass looks like> > it should be cut ...high lumps here and there etc...but that will have> > to wait....,> >
Bob Griffiths> > 68 SS 396 Chevelle> > 64 72 76 79 & 95 Corvettes>


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Zorin Inc. 11 April 2005 00:53:26 permanent link ]
 I have this really great deal going with my wife. Whatever I spend on the
vette I have to buy her a gift that costs half as much (I had to get her a
diamond bracelet when I got the body kit installed and painted). So if I
spend $200 on new calipers and brake lines I have to buy her something for
$100 to "smooth it over". lol

"Tom in Missouri" <toomuch@spam.com> wrote in message
news:Vyf6e.4721$sp3­.1195@newsread3.news­.atl.earthlink.net..­.> If you have a drill press, you are in luck. If not, a steady hand will > get> you out of a lot of trouble.>
Get a new bleeder or remove one from the other side. You need it to size > a> drill bit.>
Buy a reverse drill bit. Most people have no idea what this is, but it is> simple, it is a drill bit that cuts in reverse. It is NOT an easy out.> Those things are a curse on mechanics. Being hardened, they tend to snap> rather than twist and let you know they have gone too far. If they > twisted,> you could back them out. Instead, they snap and leave a hardened bit in> there that is really hard to drill out.>
Reverse drill bits can be found at some mom & pop hardware stores, and at> specialty fastener stores. You won't find them at Wal-Mart, Home Depot,> etc.>
Use some grease on the bit and drill as slowly as you can. The grease will> collect the chips and keep the caliper clean. Slow drilling will let you> not snap a bit, too. Drill slightly under the thread size of the hole.>
Go to Sears and get a rethreading kit. These are NOT taps, but a > rethreader> which looks like a self-tapping bolt or a bolt with lengthwise cuts across> the threads.>
Patience and you are there.>
If worse comes to worse, you can redrill slightly larger and tap for the> next size up bleeder, available at places like NAPA. Be sure to get the> next size up BEFORE you drill, because they are not available in every> fraction of an inch.>
"Zorin Inc." <ZorinInc@cox.net> wrote in message> news:Ede6e.1005$5J3­.540@lakeread01...>>­ I WISH I could afford another car now, got my vette and wife got a new> Jeep>> Grand Cherokee to get groceries in the mud. lol The rest of the system>> could take more pressure sure, but I'm just not too sure about the> reservoir>> where the power bleeder hooks up, that part isn't usually pressurized.> 15#>> is plenty for a good steady fluid flow either way. Calipers are gonna> cost>> me $60 per side in the front, and they probably won't take the core from> the>> front right one due to the twisted nipple, so that might be $100 for that>> one. Just looking at Eckler's prices for rebuilt.>>
"Bob G." <rg327_remove_@adel­phia.net> wrote in message>> news:if9i51lni3h264­ndcct45tbk6vmqujis5n­@4ax.com...>> > On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 05:59:40 -0400, "Zorin Inc." <ZorinInc@cox.net>>­> > wrote:>> >
Well, I tried bleeding the brakes the other day on my 95. I had the>> >>pressure bleeder at 15psi on the reservoir, taking my time, did the> rear,>> >>flushed all the old 10 year old crap out of the lines. Got both the> rear>> >>calipers done, did the front left, the nipple was tight as hell but got>> >>her>> >>done, moved to the front right, and <*SNAP*> the nipple broke off in >> >>the>> >>caliper. AAAARRRGGHHHH!!! Went to Sears, bought an easy-out, drilled> the>> >>hole a little bigger, soaked it with penetrating oil, and snapped the> easy>> >>out! After trying to drill THAT out I give up. Looks like I'm just> going>> >>to have to replace the front calipers. One thing I thought was strange>> >>was>> >>the order the book said to bleed them in, left rear, right rear, left>> >>front,>> >>right front. I'm going to replace both the front calipers while I'm at>> >>it,>> >>probably switch to stainless flex lines too all the way around just for>> >>the>> >>hell of it. Another weekend project. When any of my other cars break >> >>I>> >>get>> >>pissed, when this thing breaks I look at it like "oh boy, I get to work> on>> >>the vette!" lol :)­>> >>
===================­====>> > My question is....why only 15 pounds of pressure in the bleeder tank?>> > I have been using between 20 and 25 which I think is the amount>> > specified in the manual ...(is the C4 only 15 #'s)>> >
My only advice is to buy FOUR more Corvettes so you can own 5 like I>> > do... you honestly will be able to say Oh Boy I can work on "a" vette>> > every day.... lol>> >
I say this because there is something small wrong with each of the>> > cars 99 percent of the time... never much but it sure keeps me>> > busy...BUT like you I enjoy the time in the garages...>> >
I am putting calibers on my 76 ..and while I did not break the nipple>> > I did break the fitting from the solid fuel line...just like you it>> > just snapped...only 15 bucks and a 80 mile drive to pick up another>> > fuel line...>> >
Drove my 95 to pick up the line, yesterday morning, took the 64>> > out last evening for the local Saturday night Cruise, in a few minutes>> > I will dust the 72 off and head down the road to check out the cars at>> > a Corvette Only show ...>> >
Great weekend ....3 cars out of the garage for the 1st time since last>> > year... and a few minutes spent Breaking the 76.... Grass looks like>> > it should be cut ...high lumps here and there etc...but that will have>> > to wait....,>> >
Bob Griffiths>> > 68 SS 396 Chevelle>> > 64 72 76 79 & 95 Corvettes>>


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Joevet 11 April 2005 04:13:08 permanent link ]
 I don't know about your wife, but if I told mine I bought new calipers for
$1.50 her response would be "ok you owe me a cup of coffee"
"Zorin Inc." <ZorinInc@cox.net> wrote in message
news:jkg6e.1024$5J3­.355@lakeread01...> I have this really great deal going with my wife. Whatever I spend on the> vette I have to buy her a gift that costs half as much (I had to get her a> diamond bracelet when I got the body kit installed and painted). So if I> spend $200 on new calipers and brake lines I have to buy her something for> $100 to "smooth it over". lol>
"Tom in Missouri" <toomuch@spam.com> wrote in message> news:Vyf6e.4721$sp3­.1195@newsread3.news­.atl.earthlink.net..­.> > If you have a drill press, you are in luck. If not, a steady hand will> > get> > you out of a lot of trouble.> >
Get a new bleeder or remove one from the other side. You need it to
size> > a> > drill bit.> >
Buy a reverse drill bit. Most people have no idea what this is, but it
simple, it is a drill bit that cuts in reverse. It is NOT an easy out.> > Those things are a curse on mechanics. Being hardened, they tend to
snap> > rather than twist and let you know they have gone too far. If they> > twisted,> > you could back them out. Instead, they snap and leave a hardened bit in> > there that is really hard to drill out.> >
Reverse drill bits can be found at some mom & pop hardware stores, and
specialty fastener stores. You won't find them at Wal-Mart, Home Depot,> > etc.> >
Use some grease on the bit and drill as slowly as you can. The grease
will> > collect the chips and keep the caliper clean. Slow drilling will let
not snap a bit, too. Drill slightly under the thread size of the hole.> >
Go to Sears and get a rethreading kit. These are NOT taps, but a> > rethreader> > which looks like a self-tapping bolt or a bolt with lengthwise cuts
across> > the threads.> >
Patience and you are there.> >
If worse comes to worse, you can redrill slightly larger and tap for the> > next size up bleeder, available at places like NAPA. Be sure to get the> > next size up BEFORE you drill, because they are not available in every> > fraction of an inch.> >
"Zorin Inc." <ZorinInc@cox.net> wrote in message> > news:Ede6e.1005$5J3­.540@lakeread01...> >> I WISH I could afford another car now, got my vette and wife got a new> > Jeep> >> Grand Cherokee to get groceries in the mud. lol The rest of the
system> >> could take more pressure sure, but I'm just not too sure about the> > reservoir> >> where the power bleeder hooks up, that part isn't usually pressurized.> > 15#> >> is plenty for a good steady fluid flow either way. Calipers are gonna> > cost> >> me $60 per side in the front, and they probably won't take the core
from> > the> >> front right one due to the twisted nipple, so that might be $100 for
that> >> one. Just looking at Eckler's prices for rebuilt.> >>
"Bob G." <rg327_remove_@adel­phia.net> wrote in message> >> news:if9i51lni3h264­ndcct45tbk6vmqujis5n­@4ax.com...> >> > On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 05:59:40 -0400, "Zorin Inc." <ZorinInc@cox.net>>­ >> > wrote:> >> >
Well, I tried bleeding the brakes the other day on my 95. I had the> >> >>pressure bleeder at 15psi on the reservoir, taking my time, did the> > rear,> >> >>flushed all the old 10 year old crap out of the lines. Got both the> > rear> >> >>calipers done, did the front left, the nipple was tight as hell but
done, moved to the front right, and <*SNAP*> the nipple broke off in> >> >>the> >> >>caliper. AAAARRRGGHHHH!!! Went to Sears, bought an easy-out,
drilled> > the> >> >>hole a little bigger, soaked it with penetrating oil, and snapped the> > easy> >> >>out! After trying to drill THAT out I give up. Looks like I'm just> > going> >> >>to have to replace the front calipers. One thing I thought was
strange> >> >>was> >> >>the order the book said to bleed them in, left rear, right rear, left> >> >>front,> >> >>right front. I'm going to replace both the front calipers while I'm
it,> >> >>probably switch to stainless flex lines too all the way around just
hell of it. Another weekend project. When any of my other cars
break> >> >>I> >> >>get> >> >>pissed, when this thing breaks I look at it like "oh boy, I get to
work> > on> >> >>the vette!" lol :)­> >> >>
===================­====> >> > My question is....why only 15 pounds of pressure in the bleeder tank?> >> > I have been using between 20 and 25 which I think is the amount> >> > specified in the manual ...(is the C4 only 15 #'s)> >> >
My only advice is to buy FOUR more Corvettes so you can own 5 like I> >> > do... you honestly will be able to say Oh Boy I can work on "a" vette> >> > every day.... lol> >> >
I say this because there is something small wrong with each of the> >> > cars 99 percent of the time... never much but it sure keeps me> >> > busy...BUT like you I enjoy the time in the garages...> >> >
I am putting calibers on my 76 ..and while I did not break the nipple> >> > I did break the fitting from the solid fuel line...just like you it> >> > just snapped...only 15 bucks and a 80 mile drive to pick up another> >> > fuel line...> >> >
Drove my 95 to pick up the line, yesterday morning, took the 64> >> > out last evening for the local Saturday night Cruise, in a few
minutes> >> > I will dust the 72 off and head down the road to check out the cars
a Corvette Only show ...> >> >
Great weekend ....3 cars out of the garage for the 1st time since
last> >> > year... and a few minutes spent Breaking the 76.... Grass looks
like> >> > it should be cut ...high lumps here and there etc...but that will
have> >> > to wait....,> >> >
Bob Griffiths> >> > 68 SS 396 Chevelle> >> > 64 72 76 79 & 95 Corvettes> >>


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