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2000 Chrysler 300M not safe

Chryslerproblem 3 May 2005 17:49:05
 I drive in fear everyday!! My car rims have caused my tires to continually
go flat. I have had numerous near accidents because of this saftey
problem! I must put air in my front tires at least 2x a week and even
then prayer it will hold me on major highways!! I have had this problem
for the entire time I have owned this car. I have a long documented
history with Chrysler and Goodyear tires. Chrysler does not care and will
not help me!! They are the worst company I have ever had to deal with!! I
have bought several new and used cars and have never had a saftey issue
before, never had a company that didn't care about their customers. This
was the most expensive car I have ever bought and the worst car I have
ever drove. I drive in fear everyday!!

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David 3 May 2005 17:59:36 permanent link ]
 And is the problem the rims or tires? They are not responsible for tire
problems. If they are goodyear tires, goodyear is responsible for them! That
is why they have tire manufacturers warranty books in the glovebox!
"chryslerproblem" <marion.charlton@lm­co.com> wrote in message
news:7d189c605e6643­3109125cde85518865@l­ocalhost.talkaboutau­tos.com...>I drive in fear everyday!! My car rims have caused my tires to continually> go flat. I have had numerous near accidents because of this saftey> problem! I must put air in my front tires at least 2x a week and even> then prayer it will hold me on major highways!! I have had this problem> for the entire time I have owned this car. I have a long documented> history with Chrysler and Goodyear tires. Chrysler does not care and will> not help me!! They are the worst company I have ever had to deal with!! > I> have bought several new and used cars and have never had a saftey issue> before, never had a company that didn't care about their customers. This> was the most expensive car I have ever bought and the worst car I have> ever drove. I drive in fear everyday!!>


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Steve 3 May 2005 19:20:00 permanent link ]
 You could change your rims and tires. Certainly it is worth the cost.


"chryslerproblem" <marion.charlton@lm­co.com> wrote in message
news:7d189c605e6643­3109125cde85518865@l­ocalhost.talkaboutau­tos.com...>I drive in fear everyday!! My car rims have caused my tires to continually> go flat. I have had numerous near accidents because of this saftey> problem! I must put air in my front tires at least 2x a week and even> then prayer it will hold me on major highways!! I have had this problem> for the entire time I have owned this car. I have a long documented> history with Chrysler and Goodyear tires. Chrysler does not care and will> not help me!! They are the worst company I have ever had to deal with!! > I> have bought several new and used cars and have never had a saftey issue> before, never had a company that didn't care about their customers. This> was the most expensive car I have ever bought and the worst car I have> ever drove. I drive in fear everyday!!>


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Steve 3 May 2005 19:25:02 permanent link ]
 chryslerproblem wrote:
I drive in fear everyday!!

Then you're an idiot. Intelligent car owners FIX problems, they don't
risk their lives and others by living in fear of problems.
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Joe Pfeiffer 3 May 2005 20:22:47 permanent link ]
 "chryslerproblem" <marion.charlton@lm­co.com> writes:
I drive in fear everyday!! My car rims have caused my tires to continually> go flat. I have had numerous near accidents because of this saftey

So... I know I'm going to regret feeding a troll here, but I've got
to ask: how, exactly, are your rims causing your tires to go flat?
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Joseph J. Pfeiffer, Jr., Ph.D. Phone -- (505) 646-1605
Department of Computer Science FAX -- (505) 646-1002
New Mexico State University http://www.cs.nmsu.­edu/~pfeiffer
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Richard 3 May 2005 20:37:30 permanent link ]
 
"Steve" <no@spam.thanks> wrote in message
news:0LmdncTNoK1TCu­rfRVn-sw@texas.net..­.> chryslerproblem wrote:>
I drive in fear everyday!!>
Then you're an idiot. Intelligent car owners FIX problems, they don't risk > their lives and others by living in fear of problems.

I had trouble keeping the pressure up in a few of my Cruiser's alloy rims
and tires. The bead of the rim was cleaned and it still lost air at the
rim/bead area. A little anti-leak applied with the pressure applicator
solved that problem.

Richard.


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Daniel J. Stern 3 May 2005 23:33:36 permanent link ]
 Charlene. Good to see you back. Not.

On Tue, 3 May 2005, chryslerproblem wrote:
I drive in fear everyday!! My car rims have caused my tires to continually> go flat. I have had numerous near accidents because of this saftey> problem! I must put air in my front tires at least 2x a week and even> then prayer it will hold me on major highways!! I have had this problem> for the entire time I have owned this car. I have a long documented> history with Chrysler and Goodyear tires. Chrysler does not care and will> not help me!! They are the worst company I have ever had to deal with!! I> have bought several new and used cars and have never had a saftey issue> before, never had a company that didn't care about their customers. This> was the most expensive car I have ever bought and the worst car I have> ever drove. I drive in fear everyday!!>
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MoPar Man 4 May 2005 05:19:08 permanent link ]
 chryslerproblem wrote:
I drive in fear everyday!! My car rims have caused my tires to> continually go flat.

On June 4, 2003 I posted the following in this news group about my
2000 300M:

: Late last fall I put my 17" chromed rims on my 300M in storage
: (in the basement) and bought some plain 16" steel rims for
: snow tires. 3 out of 4 of the chrome rims were leaking at
: the time, 1 badly.
:
: In April I got the Eagle's off the chrome rims in preparation
: for some new rubber and was totally shocked at the condition
: of some of the rims. Wholly flaky chrome and white-rusting
: craters batman! I spent the better part of a weekend using
: various power tools and abrasives getting the sealing-surface
: of those rims back into shape. The goodyear dealer that took
: the Eagles off was impressed (when I brought them back for
: mounting the new tires).

I had the Goodyear dealer put Dunlop Sport 5000 on those rims at the
time (June/03). He applied some sort of sealant around the bead
(which I assume is standard practice at tire shops).

I have had ZERO leaks on those rims since then. I don't drive them in
the winter (past 2 winters). I'm about to bring them out of the
basement and re-inflate them for the summer (I let the air out of them
while in storage).

But yes, I think it's just a matter of time when those big aluminum
wheels start corroding and develop bad leaks - unless maybe they are
treated properly prior to tire mounting (which probably isin't done at
the factory). Maybe it doesn't happen in southern climates?
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Joe Pfeiffer 4 May 2005 07:34:01 permanent link ]
 MoPar Man <MoPar@Man.com> writes:>
But yes, I think it's just a matter of time when those big aluminum> wheels start corroding and develop bad leaks - unless maybe they are> treated properly prior to tire mounting (which probably isin't done at> the factory). Maybe it doesn't happen in southern climates?

Why? Why should aluminum rims leak worse than steel? In ordinary
use, aluminum develops a thin coat of oxidation... and stops. Steel
jsut rusts and rusts.

So what's special (in a bad way) about those rims?
--
Joseph J. Pfeiffer, Jr., Ph.D. Phone -- (505) 646-1605
Department of Computer Science FAX -- (505) 646-1002
New Mexico State University http://www.cs.nmsu.­edu/~pfeiffer
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Nate Nagel 4 May 2005 13:58:43 permanent link ]
 Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
MoPar Man <MoPar@Man.com> writes:>
But yes, I think it's just a matter of time when those big aluminum>>wheels start corroding and develop bad leaks - unless maybe they are>>treated properly prior to tire mounting (which probably isin't done at>>the factory). Maybe it doesn't happen in southern climates?>
Why? Why should aluminum rims leak worse than steel? In ordinary> use, aluminum develops a thin coat of oxidation... and stops. Steel> jsut rusts and rusts.>
So what's special (in a bad way) about those rims?

I dunno but that explanation makes sense. A friend of mine has a
Concorde with LHS alloys on it and one of the rear tires regularly goes
low. I will suggest to him that he get that tire dismounted and check
out the rim surface (that tire hasn't been replaced since he bought the
car.)

nate

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Bill Putney 4 May 2005 14:36:04 permanent link ]
 Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
MoPar Man <MoPar@Man.com> writes:>
But yes, I think it's just a matter of time when those big aluminum>>wheels start corroding and develop bad leaks - unless maybe they are>>treated properly prior to tire mounting (which probably isin't done at>>the factory). Maybe it doesn't happen in southern climates?>
Why? Why should aluminum rims leak worse than steel? In ordinary> use, aluminum develops a thin coat of oxidation... and stops. Steel> jsut rusts and rusts.>
So what's special (in a bad way) about those rims?

If you do a search on the 300M Club forums, you will find that this is
in fact a not-uncommon problem with certain of the factory
chrome-aluminum wheels (The name Razorstar seems to come to mind).
Seems the chrome cladding is the problem

Here's one to get you started.

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
adddress with the letter 'x')
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Art 4 May 2005 17:28:01 permanent link ]
 Actually those Goodyear tires suck and the best thing you can do is replace
them with Michelin Energy MX4 plus which became standard equipment in later
years. I am surprised your dealer hasn't been more helpful. Many dealers
brought the cars to Goodyear to replace the tires. Mine did. But the new
set sucked too. I drove the first set 10k miles and the second set 10k
miles and then replaced them with my money for the Michelins. Never had a
leak problem. Just bad vibrations, noisy and they become hard as rocks.


"chryslerproblem" <marion.charlton@lm­co.com> wrote in message
news:7d189c605e6643­3109125cde85518865@l­ocalhost.talkaboutau­tos.com...>I drive in fear everyday!! My car rims have caused my tires to continually> go flat. I have had numerous near accidents because of this saftey> problem! I must put air in my front tires at least 2x a week and even> then prayer it will hold me on major highways!! I have had this problem> for the entire time I have owned this car. I have a long documented> history with Chrysler and Goodyear tires. Chrysler does not care and will> not help me!! They are the worst company I have ever had to deal with!! > I> have bought several new and used cars and have never had a saftey issue> before, never had a company that didn't care about their customers. This> was the most expensive car I have ever bought and the worst car I have> ever drove. I drive in fear everyday!!>


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Maxpower 4 May 2005 22:35:53 permanent link ]
 
"Joe Pfeiffer" <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.e­du> wrote in message
news:1by8avu0k6.fsf­@cs.nmsu.edu...> MoPar Man <MoPar@Man.com> writes:> >
But yes, I think it's just a matter of time when those big aluminum> > wheels start corroding and develop bad leaks - unless maybe they are> > treated properly prior to tire mounting (which probably isin't done at> > the factory). Maybe it doesn't happen in southern climates?>
Why? Why should aluminum rims leak worse than steel? In ordinary> use, aluminum develops a thin coat of oxidation... and stops. Steel> jsut rusts and rusts.>
So what's special (in a bad way) about those rims?

Of all the complaints we get of tires loosing air and not being able to find
a problem. I would say more then 3/4 or better are the alluminum rims> -- > Joseph J. Pfeiffer, Jr., Ph.D. Phone -- (505) 646-1605> Department of Computer Science FAX -- (505) 646-1002> New Mexico State University http://www.cs.nmsu.­edu/~pfeiffer


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Steve 4 May 2005 22:40:53 permanent link ]
 
But yes, I think it's just a matter of time when those big aluminum> wheels start corroding and develop bad leaks - unless maybe they are> treated properly prior to tire mounting (which probably isin't done at> the factory). Maybe it doesn't happen in southern climates?


No, it doesn't happen in southern climates. I've had 20+ year old
aluminum rims that are fine.

Also, I don't think it should happen in ANY climate if a good bead
sealing compound is used from the time the wheels are new. The sealer
not only is there to keep air in, it keeps salt/water OUT of the bead
sealing area on the rim.
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Steve 4 May 2005 22:42:46 permanent link ]
 Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
MoPar Man <MoPar@Man.com> writes:>
But yes, I think it's just a matter of time when those big aluminum>>wheels start corroding and develop bad leaks - unless maybe they are>>treated properly prior to tire mounting (which probably isin't done at>>the factory). Maybe it doesn't happen in southern climates?>
Why? Why should aluminum rims leak worse than steel? In ordinary> use, aluminum develops a thin coat of oxidation... and stops. Steel> jsut rusts and rusts.

Aluminum does seem to form much deeper corrosion "pits" than steel,
especially when exposed to salt water. But always coating the bead of
new tires with bead sealer should keep the salt out of that critical area.

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Steve 5 May 2005 05:05:49 permanent link ]
 
"Steve" <no@spam.thanks> wrote in message
news:Xt-dnf2RYZOriu­TfRVn-jg@texas.net..­.>
But yes, I think it's just a matter of time when those big aluminum>> wheels start corroding and develop bad leaks - unless maybe they are>> treated properly prior to tire mounting (which probably isin't done at>> the factory). Maybe it doesn't happen in southern climates?>
No, it doesn't happen in southern climates. I've had 20+ year old aluminum > rims that are fine.>
Also, I don't think it should happen in ANY climate if a good bead sealing > compound is used from the time the wheels are new. The sealer not only is > there to keep air in, it keeps salt/water OUT of the bead sealing area on > the rim.

What is this? Do they apply this in the factor, or is this aftermarket?

Steve


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