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CarGuru > Chrysler > Re: 94 Voyager service manual, which? 9 April 2005 22:04:43

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Re: 94 Voyager service manual, which?

Bob Shuman 7 April 2005 19:57:40
 You want the genuine Chrysler Factory Service Manual. It need not
necessarily be for the exact year as they usually are for a range of years
when the vehicle drive train and body style was the same.

There is no comparison to Chilton's, Haynes, etc. For that year, you most
likely can find the FSM for about $20 plus shipping.

Bob
<mikedepetris@gmail­.com> wrote in message
news:1112885930.716­958.23420@f14g2000cw­b.googlegroups.com..­.> I see I can find some around on ebay, but as I see some are chrysler> and some are heynes I ask you which is better? I need the electric> schema and possibly help for periodic maintenance and rapairing guides.> I also need it in english (or italian) and complete. Can you help me> how to identify the correct one please?>


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Mike De Petris 7 April 2005 23:03:29 permanent link ]
 
You want the genuine Chrysler Factory Service Manual. It need not BS> necessarily be for the exact year as they usually are for a range of BS> years when the vehicle drive train and body style was the same.
There is no comparison to Chilton's, Haynes, etc. For that year, you BS> most likely can find the FSM for about $20 plus shipping.

perfect thank you, as I can't find it here but in UK/USA only, I want to be
sure before investing in an international money transfer.

:-)­


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Treeline 9 April 2005 03:10:33 permanent link ]
 "Mike De Petris" <mikenews@NOSPAM.bb­sgate.interware.it> wrote in message
news:5uf5e.749200$b­5.33659094@news3.tin­.it...> BS> You want the genuine Chrysler Factory Service Manual. It need not> BS> necessarily be for the exact year as they usually are for a range of> BS> years when the vehicle drive train and body style was the same.>
There is no comparison to Chilton's, Haynes, etc. For that year, you> BS> most likely can find the FSM for about $20 plus shipping.>
perfect thank you, as I can't find it here but in UK/USA only, I want to be> sure before investing in an international money transfer.

Not my experience so far. The actual shop manual is about $60 and on a CD it's
running close to $90 and that does not include shipping. I have seen one, and I
mean ONE, used manual for sale on eBay for maybe half that price used.

I can see your point about getting one in the same range but I would prefer to
get one for 1994 since there might some some subtle but important differences
between a 1993 and a 1994 Voyager.

If you know of any Factory Shop Manual for $20 for the 1994 Voyager, or even
for the 1993 or 1995 for $20, I'm all ears because I have never seen one sold
that cheaply and I have been looking off and on for the past year or so. And I
mean the full shop manual. There are smaller books which are also shop manuals
for specific systems and sub-sytems which may do the job for this poster and
are around $20.




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Sn 9 April 2005 04:01:12 permanent link ]
 Treeline wrote:> "Mike De Petris" <mikenews@NOSPAM.bb­sgate.interware.it> wrote in message> news:5uf5e.749200$b­5.33659094@news3.tin­.it...>
If you know of any Factory Shop Manual for $20 for the 1994 Voyager, or even> for the 1993 or 1995 for $20, I'm all ears because I have never seen one sold> that cheaply and I have been looking off and on for the past year or so. And I> mean the full shop manual. There are smaller books which are also shop manuals> for specific systems and sub-sytems which may do the job for this poster and> are around $20.

It took about 15 seconds to find this one.
http://cgi.ebay.com­/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI­SAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd­=1&item=7967043992&c­ategory=34217&sspage­name=WDVW
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Treeline 9 April 2005 04:10:23 permanent link ]
 "SN" <snewman24@cox.net>­ wrote in message
news:5XE5e.4215$L64­.2855@okepread07...>­ Treeline wrote:> > "Mike De Petris" <mikenews@NOSPAM.bb­sgate.interware.it> wrote in message> > news:5uf5e.749200$b­5.33659094@news3.tin­.it...> >
If you know of any Factory Shop Manual for $20 for the 1994 Voyager, or
even> > for the 1993 or 1995 for $20, I'm all ears because I have never seen one
sold> > that cheaply and I have been looking off and on for the past year or so.
And I> > mean the full shop manual. There are smaller books which are also shop
manuals> > for specific systems and sub-sytems which may do the job for this poster
are around $20.>
It took about 15 seconds to find this one.>
http://cgi.ebay.com­/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI­SAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd­=1&item=7967043992&c­ategory=34217&sspage­name=WDVW

Read more closely what I posted. I used the word, "sold" - did I not? When this
item is sold in 6 days, it will not be sold for $20. And that was the point of
my post, in reply to another poster. Most likely, it will go for about twice
the $20 or around $40 to $45.






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Bob Shuman 9 April 2005 17:39:57 permanent link ]
 I bought a 1995 FSM for a New Yorker, LHS, Concorde, Intrepid, and Vision
for $25 that included shipping. I own a 1996, but most stuff is exactly the
same. Your mileage may vary since an auction SALE price always depends on
supply and demand. My purchase was a few years back, so I assumed demand
would be less now for the older vehicle referenced in the OP.

My post wasn't so much to accurately predict his final purchase price as to
steer him to a way to acquire this in the aftermarket for much less than the
original retail price. If the poster is patient and monitors EBay, he
should be able to find a bargain.

Bob

"Treeline" <treeline12345@yaho­o.com> wrote in message
news:P­3F5e.587$nH4.­548@trndny05...> "SN" <snewman24@cox.net>­ wrote in message> news:5XE5e.4215$L64­.2855@okepread07...>­ > Treeline wrote:> > > "Mike De Petris" <mikenews@NOSPAM.bb­sgate.interware.it> wrote in
message> > > news:5uf5e.749200$b­5.33659094@news3.tin­.it...> > >
If you know of any Factory Shop Manual for $20 for the 1994 Voyager,
even> > > for the 1993 or 1995 for $20, I'm all ears because I have never seen
sold> > > that cheaply and I have been looking off and on for the past year or
so.> > > for specific systems and sub-sytems which may do the job for this
poster> and> > > are around $20.> >
It took about 15 seconds to find this one.> >
http://cgi.ebay.com­/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI­SAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd­=1&item=7967043992&c­ategory=34217&sspage­name=WDVW>
Read more closely what I posted. I used the word, "sold" - did I not? When
this> item is sold in 6 days, it will not be sold for $20.


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Treeline 9 April 2005 20:15:37 permanent link ]
 You make a good point. But for some reason the FSM for a Voyager minivan
appears to be increasing, not decreasing. It's right past the 10 year limit,
official or unofficial so it's a little more difficult to get these manuals.
Right at the 10 year limit, and I monitored this, within a few weeks, the
dealer could not be bothered to order it anymore. I kid you not. Interesting.
Same thing with my rear windshield wiper. After the 10 years, they are not
obligated. I was told this is the law. Someone else said it is not the law. But
by practice, it seems to a "law." I can get the manual without the dealer so
it's not a biggie. And I can replace only the rubber in the windshield wiper so
that's not a biggie. But it's not heart-warming either.

On eBay Motors, the price of the new FSM is actually MORE than what the dealer
charged for a new one. On an old one, I usually see them about once a month or
so. And you're right right that if I monitor it every day, I can find a
bargain. The problem is monitoring every single day. And I have not seen one
sold for $20 in the last year, as I have said. I can search past eBay auction
to verify that my observation is 100% true. The last one I monitored, last
month, sold for around $45.

"Bob Shuman" <reshuman@removethi­s.lucent.com> wrote in message
news:d38lvk$fc2@net­news.proxy.lucent.co­m...> I bought a 1995 FSM for a New Yorker, LHS, Concorde, Intrepid, and Vision> for $25 that included shipping. I own a 1996, but most stuff is exactly the> same. Your mileage may vary since an auction SALE price always depends on> supply and demand. My purchase was a few years back, so I assumed demand> would be less now for the older vehicle referenced in the OP.>
My post wasn't so much to accurately predict his final purchase price as to> steer him to a way to acquire this in the aftermarket for much less than the> original retail price. If the poster is patient and monitors EBay, he> should be able to find a bargain.>
"Treeline" <treeline12345@yaho­o.com> wrote in message> news:P­3F5e.587$nH4.­548@trndny05...

Treeline wrote:> > > > If you know of any Factory Shop Manual for $20 for the 1994 Voyager,> or even for the 1993 or 1995 for $20, I'm all ears because I have never seen> one sold that cheaply and I have been looking off and on for the past year or> so.
"SN" <snewman24@cox.net>­ wrote in message> > news:5XE5e.4215$L64­.2855@okepread07...>­ > > It took about 15 seconds to find this one.
http://cgi.ebay.com­/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI­SAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd­=1&item=7967043992&c­ategory=34217&sspage­name=WDVW
Read more closely what I posted. I used the word, "sold" - did I not? When> this item is sold in 6 days, it will not be sold for $20.

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Bob Shuman 9 April 2005 22:04:43 permanent link ]
 Sounds like the "bargain" price for that specific make and model year is
$45. Still less than trying to get from the dealer. If you expand the
search to include similar model years, it may or may not get a lower final
sale price. Thanks for your input that from your experience these manuals
increase in value after 10 years.

Bob

"Treeline" <treeline12345@yaho­o.com> wrote in message
news:JcT5e.8164$Xm3­.623@trndny01...> You make a good point. But for some reason the FSM for a Voyager minivan> appears to be increasing, not decreasing. It's right past the 10 year
limit,> official or unofficial so it's a little more difficult to get these
manuals.> Right at the 10 year limit, and I monitored this, within a few weeks, the> dealer could not be bothered to order it anymore. I kid you not.
Interesting.>


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