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Oil leaking on my Neon
Young Man 7 April 2005 03:53:32
	Hi all, My neon was leaking oil so I took it to the mechanics and they fixed it to a certain degree but it's still leaking a few drops a day. They said that to fix the problem completely I'd have to change the head gasket which would cost me a lot of money (>$1000). My question is what sort of risk am I putting myself and my car into by allowing for a few drops of oil leakage per day?
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Art 7 April 2005 04:48:57 [ permanent link ]
	What year Neon? "Young Man" <gman@stuffer.com> wrote in message news:d31spv$qa4$1@domitilla.aioe.org...> Hi all,> My neon was leaking oil so I took it to the mechanics and they fixed it to > a> certain degree but it's still leaking a few drops a day. They said that to> fix the problem completely I'd have to change the head gasket which would> cost me a lot of money (>$1000).> My question is what sort of risk am I putting myself and my car into by> allowing for a few drops of oil leakage per day?>
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Young Man 7 April 2005 05:26:51 [ permanent link ]
	"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:Zr%4e.4715$44.1767@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...> What year Neon? Sorry, it's a 97 Neon. Thanks.
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Jeff Falkiner 7 April 2005 06:33:07 [ permanent link ]
	"Young Man" <gman@stuffer.com> wrote in message news:d3228t$uo$1@domitilla.aioe.org...> "Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message> news:Zr%4e.4715$44.1767@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...> > What year Neon?> Sorry, it's a 97 Neon. Thanks. I've had the same problem on my '95 neon. First head gasket blew before they had figured out the MLS gasket, so I'm on my second "bad" gasket. The car dripped a couple drips a day for over four years, now just recently it has developed a more significant leak and an appetite for coolant, although with no evidence in the engine oil, thankfully. It's sitting in the garage waiting for me to get off my duff, track down a FSM for the car, pick up a six pack, and get to work. The head gaskets on these cars usually failed with an external leak just like yours due to a bad design. An oil passage in the EGR area on the rear of the block by the brake booster is too close the outside of the block and the gasket is too thin. You may want to have the tech put some oil dye in the engine and make SURE that it's the head gasket. These cars are also known to leak oil from the cam cover and the cam position sensor. The latter is often confused with a head gasket leak due to its close proximity. Short answer - as long as you're not mixing oil and coolant and the leak is manageable, you're fine. Jeff Falkiner 95 neon - currently waiting for open-heart surgery to fix a coolant breach 99 Intrepid - the Green Monster 04 Sebring - the Silver Bullet
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Maxpower 7 April 2005 12:12:27 [ permanent link ]
	"Young Man" <gman@stuffer.com> wrote in message news:d31spv$qa4$1@domitilla.aioe.org...> Hi all,> My neon was leaking oil so I took it to the mechanics and they fixed it to certain degree but it's still leaking a few drops a day. They said that to> fix the problem completely I'd have to change the head gasket which would> cost me a lot of money (>$1000).> My question is what sort of risk am I putting myself and my car into by> allowing for a few drops of oil leakage per day?> A FIRE!
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High Sierra 7 April 2005 21:47:10 [ permanent link ]
	maxpower wrote:> "Young Man" <gman@stuffer.com> wrote in message> news:d31spv$qa4$1@domitilla.aioe.org...> Hi all,>> My neon was leaking oil so I took it to the mechanics and they fixed it to> certain degree but it's still leaking a few drops a day. They said that to>>fix the problem completely I'd have to change the head gasket which would>>cost me a lot of money (>$1000).>> My question is what sort of risk am I putting myself and my car into by>>allowing for a few drops of oil leakage per day?>> A FIRE!> NO
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Christian M . Mericle 8 April 2005 00:37:54 [ permanent link ]
	On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 04:12:27 -0400, "maxpower" <damnnickname@yahoo.com> wrote: "Young Man" <gman@stuffer.com> wrote in message>news:d31spv$qa4$1@domitilla.aioe.org...>> Hi all,>> My neon was leaking oil so I took it to the mechanics and they fixed it to>a>> certain degree but it's still leaking a few drops a day. They said that to>> fix the problem completely I'd have to change the head gasket which would>> cost me a lot of money (>$1000).>> My question is what sort of risk am I putting myself and my car into by>> allowing for a few drops of oil leakage per day?>> A FIRE! With motor oil? I could see that if it was leaking gas. -- Christian Save Darfur -- http://www.savedarfur.org/ World Vision (Darfur) -- http://donate.wvus.org/OA_HTML/xxwvibeCCtpItmDspRte.jsp?section=10025&item=1072182 ICC (Sudan) -- http://www.persecution.org/Countries/sudan.html
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Maxpower 8 April 2005 01:38:28 [ permanent link ]
	"Christian M. Mericle" <newsgroupinky@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1g6b51h8gqe11d0hbqhokmmh3od4gvk8nq@4ax.com...> On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 04:12:27 -0400, "maxpower" <damnnickname@yahoo.com>> wrote:> "Young Man" <gman@stuffer.com> wrote in message> >news:d31spv$qa4$1@domitilla.aioe.org...> >> Hi all,> >> My neon was leaking oil so I took it to the mechanics and they fixed it certain degree but it's still leaking a few drops a day. They said that fix the problem completely I'd have to change the head gasket which would> >> cost me a lot of money (>$1000).> >> My question is what sort of risk am I putting myself and my car into by> >> allowing for a few drops of oil leakage per day?> >> A FIRE!> With motor oil? I could see that if it was leaking gas. Guess again, oil leaking on the exhaust is highly flamable, Acually im surprised this wasnt a recall. the 4 cyl 2.5 had a recall e few years ago with the valve cover gasket/cover that leaked oil and caused fires....Oil is flamable I got news for you> -- Christian> Save Darfur -- http://www.savedarfur.org/> World Vision (Darfur) -- http://donate.wvus.org/OA_HTML/xxwvibeCCtpItmDspRte.jsp?section=10025&item=1072182> ICC (Sudan) -- http://www.persecution.org/Countries/sudan.html
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Christian M . Mericle 9 April 2005 00:49:40 [ permanent link ]
	On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:38:28 -0400, "maxpower" <damnnickname@yahoo.com> wrote: "Christian M. Mericle" <newsgroupinky@hotmail.com> wrote in message>news:1g6b51h8gqe11d0hbqhokmmh3od4gvk8nq@4ax.com...>> On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 04:12:27 -0400, "maxpower" <damnnickname@yahoo.com>>> wrote:>> "Young Man" <gman@stuffer.com> wrote in message>> >news:d31spv$qa4$1@domitilla.aioe.org...>> >> Hi all,>> >> My neon was leaking oil so I took it to the mechanics and they fixed it>to>> >a>> >> certain degree but it's still leaking a few drops a day. They said that>to>> >> fix the problem completely I'd have to change the head gasket which>would>> >> cost me a lot of money (>$1000).>> >> My question is what sort of risk am I putting myself and my car into by>> >> allowing for a few drops of oil leakage per day?>> >> A FIRE!>> With motor oil? I could see that if it was leaking gas.> Guess again, oil leaking on the exhaust is highly flamable, Acually im>surprised this wasnt a recall. the 4 cyl 2.5 had a recall e few years ago>with the valve cover gasket/cover that leaked oil and caused fires....Oil is>flamable I got news for you Hmmm. Okay. I'll have to try to set some on fire when I get home and see how easily it's done. I've got to tell you I've seen some engines with more oil on the outside than on the inside that still don't roast. -- Christian Save Darfur -- http://www.savedarfur.org/ World Vision (Darfur) -- http://donate.wvus.org/OA_HTML/xxwvibeCCtpItmDspRte.jsp?section=10025&item=1072182 ICC (Sudan) -- http://www.persecution.org/Countries/sudan.html
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Bill 2 9 April 2005 05:21:02 [ permanent link ]
	"Christian M. Mericle" <newsgroupinky@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:sfrd51hg402vqljutm8vr82nt22dt65ech@4ax.com...> On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:38:28 -0400, "maxpower" <damnnickname@yahoo.com>> wrote:> "Christian M. Mericle" <newsgroupinky@hotmail.com> wrote in message>>news:1g6b51h8gqe11d0hbqhokmmh3od4gvk8nq@4ax.com...>>> On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 04:12:27 -0400, "maxpower" <damnnickname@yahoo.com>>>> wrote:>>> "Young Man" <gman@stuffer.com> wrote in message>>> >news:d31spv$qa4$1@domitilla.aioe.org...>>> >> Hi all,>>> >> My neon was leaking oil so I took it to the mechanics and they fixed >>> >> it>>to>>> >a>>> >> certain degree but it's still leaking a few drops a day. They said >>> >> that>>to>>> >> fix the problem completely I'd have to change the head gasket which>>would>>> >> cost me a lot of money (>$1000).>>> >> My question is what sort of risk am I putting myself and my car into >>> >> by>>> >> allowing for a few drops of oil leakage per day?>>> >> A FIRE!>>> With motor oil? I could see that if it was leaking gas.>> Guess again, oil leaking on the exhaust is highly flamable, Acually im>>surprised this wasnt a recall. the 4 cyl 2.5 had a recall e few years ago>>with the valve cover gasket/cover that leaked oil and caused fires....Oil >>is>>flamable I got news for you> Hmmm. Okay. I'll have to try to set some on fire when I get home and> see how easily it's done. I've got to tell you I've seen some engines> with more oil on the outside than on the inside that still don't> roast. Try pouring some on a hot exhaust manifold. Much hotter than the rest of the engine.
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High Sierra 10 April 2005 17:03:01 [ permanent link ]
	Bill 2 wrote:> "Christian M. Mericle" <newsgroupinky@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:sfrd51hg402vqljutm8vr82nt22dt65ech@4ax.com...> On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:38:28 -0400, "maxpower" <damnnickname@yahoo.com>>>wrote:>> "Christian M. Mericle" <newsgroupinky@hotmail.com> wrote in message>>>news:1g6b51h8gqe11d0hbqhokmmh3od4gvk8nq@4ax.com...>>> On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 04:12:27 -0400, "maxpower" <damnnickname@yahoo.com>>>>>wrote:>>>> "Young Man" <gman@stuffer.com> wrote in message>>>>>news:d31spv$qa4$1@domitilla.aioe.org...>>>>> Hi all,>>>>>> My neon was leaking oil so I took it to the mechanics and they fixed >>>>>>it>>> certain degree but it's still leaking a few drops a day. They said >>>>>>that>>> fix the problem completely I'd have to change the head gasket which>>> would>>> cost me a lot of money (>$1000).>>>>>> My question is what sort of risk am I putting myself and my car into >>>>>>by>>>>>>allowing for a few drops of oil leakage per day?>>>>>> A FIRE!>>>> With motor oil? I could see that if it was leaking gas.>>> Guess again, oil leaking on the exhaust is highly flamable, Acually im>>>surprised this wasnt a recall. the 4 cyl 2.5 had a recall e few years ago>>>with the valve cover gasket/cover that leaked oil and caused fires....Oil >>>is>>>flamable I got news for you>> Hmmm. Okay. I'll have to try to set some on fire when I get home and>>see how easily it's done. I've got to tell you I've seen some engines>>with more oil on the outside than on the inside that still don't>>roast.> Try pouring some on a hot exhaust manifold. Much hotter than the rest of the > engine. > I had an 87 Plymouth Van with the 3.0 L engine. A seal failed in the Valve cover and dumped oil on the exhaust manifold. Made lots of smoke but no fire. As another poster stated lots of engines get covered with oil and have no issues. Chance of fire is about same as using Cell phone causing explosion when getting gas. Slim to none.
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Nospam Clare Nce 12 April 2005 07:11:44 [ permanent link ]
	On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:03:01 -0300, High Sierra <Please.reply.to.NG.only@isp.com> wrote: Bill 2 wrote:>> "Christian M. Mericle" <newsgroupinky@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:sfrd51hg402vqljutm8vr82nt22dt65ech@4ax.com...>> On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:38:28 -0400, "maxpower" <damnnickname@yahoo.com>>>>wrote:>>> "Christian M. Mericle" <newsgroupinky@hotmail.com> wrote in message>>>>news:1g6b51h8gqe11d0hbqhokmmh3od4gvk8nq@4ax.com...>>>> On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 04:12:27 -0400, "maxpower" <damnnickname@yahoo.com>>>>>>wrote:>>>>> "Young Man" <gman@stuffer.com> wrote in message>>>>>>news:d31spv$qa4$1@domitilla.aioe.org...>>>>>> Hi all,>>>>>>> My neon was leaking oil so I took it to the mechanics and they fixed >>>>>>>it>>>> certain degree but it's still leaking a few drops a day. They said >>>>>>>that>>>> fix the problem completely I'd have to change the head gasket which>>>> would>>>> cost me a lot of money (>$1000).>>>>>>> My question is what sort of risk am I putting myself and my car into >>>>>>>by>>>>>>>allowing for a few drops of oil leakage per day?>>>>>>> A FIRE!>>>>> With motor oil? I could see that if it was leaking gas.>>>> Guess again, oil leaking on the exhaust is highly flamable, Acually im>>>>surprised this wasnt a recall. the 4 cyl 2.5 had a recall e few years ago>>>>with the valve cover gasket/cover that leaked oil and caused fires....Oil >>>>is>>>>flamable I got news for you>>> Hmmm. Okay. I'll have to try to set some on fire when I get home and>>>see how easily it's done. I've got to tell you I've seen some engines>>>with more oil on the outside than on the inside that still don't>>>roast.>> Try pouring some on a hot exhaust manifold. Much hotter than the rest of the >> engine. >> I had an 87 Plymouth Van with the 3.0 L engine. A seal failed in the Valve cover >and dumped oil on the exhaust manifold. Made lots of smoke but no fire. As >another poster stated lots of engines get covered with oil and have no issues.> Chance of fire is about same as using Cell phone causing explosion when getting >gas. Slim to none. Actually, hot oil fires are not uncommon. Not terribly common on automobile engines, but industrial hydraulics have their share.
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High Sierra 12 April 2005 18:50:28 [ permanent link ]
	Is industrial hydraulic fluid the same as motor oil? nospam.clare.nce@sny.der.on.ca wrote:> On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:03:01 -0300, High Sierra> <Please.reply.to.NG.only@isp.com> wrote:> Bill 2 wrote:>> "Christian M. Mericle" <newsgroupinky@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>news:sfrd51hg402vqljutm8vr82nt22dt65ech@4ax.com...>>> On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:38:28 -0400, "maxpower" <damnnickname@yahoo.com>>>>>wrote:>>>> "Christian M. Mericle" <newsgroupinky@hotmail.com> wrote in message>>>>>news:1g6b51h8gqe11d0hbqhokmmh3od4gvk8nq@4ax.com...>>>>> On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 04:12:27 -0400, "maxpower" <damnnickname@yahoo.com>>>>>>>wrote:>>>>>> "Young Man" <gman@stuffer.com> wrote in message>>>>>>>news:d31spv$qa4$1@domitilla.aioe.org...>>>>>>> Hi all,>>>>>>>> My neon was leaking oil so I took it to the mechanics and they fixed >>>>>>>>it>>>>> certain degree but it's still leaking a few drops a day. They said >>>>>>>>that>>>>> fix the problem completely I'd have to change the head gasket which>>>>> would>>>>> cost me a lot of money (>$1000).>>>>>>>> My question is what sort of risk am I putting myself and my car into >>>>>>>>by>>>>>>>>allowing for a few drops of oil leakage per day?>>>>>>>> A FIRE!>>>>>> With motor oil? I could see that if it was leaking gas.>>>>> Guess again, oil leaking on the exhaust is highly flamable, Acually im>>>>>surprised this wasnt a recall. the 4 cyl 2.5 had a recall e few years ago>>>>>with the valve cover gasket/cover that leaked oil and caused fires....Oil >>>>>is>>>>>flamable I got news for you>>>> Hmmm. Okay. I'll have to try to set some on fire when I get home and>>>>see how easily it's done. I've got to tell you I've seen some engines>>>>with more oil on the outside than on the inside that still don't>>>>roast.>>> Try pouring some on a hot exhaust manifold. Much hotter than the rest of the >>>engine. >>> I had an 87 Plymouth Van with the 3.0 L engine. A seal failed in the Valve cover >>and dumped oil on the exhaust manifold. Made lots of smoke but no fire. As >>another poster stated lots of engines get covered with oil and have no issues.>> Chance of fire is about same as using Cell phone causing explosion when getting >>gas. Slim to none.> Actually, hot oil fires are not uncommon. Not terribly common on> automobile engines, but industrial hydraulics have their share.
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Srg 13 April 2005 06:19:08 [ permanent link ]
	"maxpower" <damnnickname@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:rtGdnajO09wPvMHfRVn-rg@comcast.com...> Hey bozo, the fumes from gasoline burns too just like the fumes from oil,> Where were you at when the instrutor was telling you that too? Actually, unlike you, I didn't have to be told that, I already knew it. So, if you guys are so afraid of oil fires in your car, I suggest you give up on driving altogether and walk. Make sure you avoid parking lots, as all those highly flammable oil spots (left by parked cars leaking oil)are probably going to ignite at any second, leaving the whole parking lot a raging inferno!! Max, I wish you had more of your "Maxpower" applied to your brain....
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Nospam Clare Nce 13 April 2005 06:31:08 [ permanent link ]
	On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 11:50:28 -0300, High Sierra <Please.reply.to.NG.only@isp.com> wrote: Is industrial hydraulic fluid the same as motor oil?> Very, very close. White hydraulic/transmission oil is something like 10 grade oil, burns with the same smell, feels the same, has less and different additives, but almost identical properties as far as boiling point, flash point, calorific value, viscosity, etc. nospam.clare.nce@sny.der.on.ca wrote:>> On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:03:01 -0300, High Sierra>> <Please.reply.to.NG.only@isp.com> wrote:>> Bill 2 wrote:>>> "Christian M. Mericle" <newsgroupinky@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>news:sfrd51hg402vqljutm8vr82nt22dt65ech@4ax.com...>>>> On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:38:28 -0400, "maxpower" <damnnickname@yahoo.com>>>>>>wrote:>>>>> "Christian M. Mericle" <newsgroupinky@hotmail.com> wrote in message>>>>>>news:1g6b51h8gqe11d0hbqhokmmh3od4gvk8nq@4ax.com...>>>>>> On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 04:12:27 -0400, "maxpower" <damnnickname@yahoo.com>>>>>>>>wrote:>>>>>>> "Young Man" <gman@stuffer.com> wrote in message>>>>>>>>news:d31spv$qa4$1@domitilla.aioe.org...>>>>>>>> Hi all,>>>>>>>>> My neon was leaking oil so I took it to the mechanics and they fixed >>>>>>>>>it>>>>>> certain degree but it's still leaking a few drops a day. They said >>>>>>>>>that>>>>>> fix the problem completely I'd have to change the head gasket which>>>>>> would>>>>>> cost me a lot of money (>$1000).>>>>>>>>> My question is what sort of risk am I putting myself and my car into >>>>>>>>>by>>>>>>>>>allowing for a few drops of oil leakage per day?>>>>>>>>> A FIRE!>>>>>>> With motor oil? I could see that if it was leaking gas.>>>>>> Guess again, oil leaking on the exhaust is highly flamable, Acually im>>>>>>surprised this wasnt a recall. the 4 cyl 2.5 had a recall e few years ago>>>>>>with the valve cover gasket/cover that leaked oil and caused fires....Oil >>>>>>is>>>>>>flamable I got news for you>>>>> Hmmm. Okay. I'll have to try to set some on fire when I get home and>>>>>see how easily it's done. I've got to tell you I've seen some engines>>>>>with more oil on the outside than on the inside that still don't>>>>>roast.>>>> Try pouring some on a hot exhaust manifold. Much hotter than the rest of the >>>>engine. >>>> I had an 87 Plymouth Van with the 3.0 L engine. A seal failed in the Valve cover >>>and dumped oil on the exhaust manifold. Made lots of smoke but no fire. As >>>another poster stated lots of engines get covered with oil and have no issues.>>> Chance of fire is about same as using Cell phone causing explosion when getting >>>gas. Slim to none.>> Actually, hot oil fires are not uncommon. Not terribly common on>> automobile engines, but industrial hydraulics have their share.
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