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Transmission ?

Scar 28 March 2005 01:51:18
 
I noticed over last few days my car when is cold is running much higher RPM
before changes gears then used to do.
I checked transmission fluid and it is hard to say if level is right because
there are air bubbles in it.
After vehicle warms up gear shifting is smooth .Transmission fluid looks a
little dirty (probably never changed ) , but I am a little afraid to change
it with this mileage.
Any idea what's wrong?

Chuck
Plymouth Acclaim 92 , 3.0L , 3speed electronic Trans. , 260K km.


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Treeline 28 March 2005 02:30:36 permanent link ]
 "Scar" <sama@orbis.pl> wrote in message
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I noticed over last few days my car when is cold is running much higher RPM> before changes gears then used to do.> I checked transmission fluid and it is hard to say if level is right because> there are air bubbles in it.> After vehicle warms up gear shifting is smooth .Transmission fluid looks a> little dirty (probably never changed ) , but I am a little afraid to change> it with this mileage.> Any idea what's wrong?>
Chuck> Plymouth Acclaim 92 , 3.0L , 3speed electronic Trans. , 260K km.

I know what way to check if the fluid is bad or so I read. I still changed
my fluid and filter. Put a drop on a paper towel. If it does not bleed
or spread, the fluid is really bad. Mine did spread but I changed it anyway,
including an OEM filter. Just don't FLUSH or whatever nonsense - do an
old-fashioned drop the pan, drain, and change the filter. You need to look
at what's cooking inside there, just ordinary sludge or bits of metal.
You could luck out with just an adjustment or it's another problem.
But again, no power flushing, nothing but gravity I think should be okay?
Also I had the 'tranny 'puter reprogrammed for the tranny.
Check the engineering bulletins too.

However I'm not a mechanic, nor do I play one, except on holidays.






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Treeline 2 April 2005 02:29:11 permanent link ]
 Top-posting to yours, and to mine, so it's getting to be a bit of mess:

I did not post before because I hoped someone else would respond
who might know more than my original post because I am not familiar
with your particular car and problem but have some info on computers.

On the internet, you can find procedures for reprogramming the computer
after a battery dis-connect sort of thing. This is basically stopping and
starting the car about 20 times and accelerating this way or that.
But this is just so the car learns your driving habits. I have found the
procedure on the 'net. Supposedly it is necessary. Look around.
I could not find a URL for you just now but I have read it here and
there. Go to Allpar.Com if you can't find anything. It's a web site
dedicated to Chrysler problems and have helped me a lot at times.
They also have a large section on tranny problems.

In my car which has an electronic transmission, there is an actual
TCM or tranny computer with a firmware chip. A dealer or a super
tranny guy can reprogram the chip or EEPROM, most likely.
This is not something you can do without, I think. Maybe your
car is newer but you would need equipment to read an EEPROM.
Eraseable Electrically Programmable Read-Only Memory

In my case, the tranny was reprogrammed and a shudder went
away because the old programming had the upshifting going too
slowly. This was in the TSB the Technical Service Bulletins.
There maybe be TSB's for your car and/or tranny.

The dealer can also read your tranny's computer, if you have one,
to see if you have the latest firmware. You might want to ask
if this is a known problem. The dealers get tons of this info
some of which may be hard for the independent mechanics to
also get. It's not in the interest of the dealers to share, according
to some complaints I have read from the mechanics. Talking about
reprogramming computers to anyone but the dealer has been
a waste of time, except for extremely high-end independent mechanics,
who probably charge as much as dealers, Mercedes-Benz types.


"Rick" <001579@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1112142464.524­308.321200@z14g2000c­wz.googlegroups.com.­..> How do you reprogram the tranny? I have a strange problem with my> trasmission on my 99 T&C. When I accelarate past 40 MPH the RMPs race> and I loose power for a second. Over a month ago I had something else> strange happen. When I would start it up the RPMs and speedometer would> stay at zero. After restarting they worked fine. I thought that this> was probably a bad speed sensor. So last week I finally got around to> replacing both input and output sensors, the filter & oil, and I even> added a tanny cooler (I am planning to use this vehicle to pull a tent> triler). So after all that I still have the problem with the racing> RPMs at 40 MPH. I haven't had any problems with the speedometer for> over a month and I really don't expect to see it since I replaced the> sensors. I was just hoping that replacing the sensors would have also> fixed the first problem too. So now I am wondering if resetting the> trans computer might fix this. Can anyone tell me how to do that?>
Rick> 99 Chrysler Town & Country 3.8 ~80K>
Treeline wrote:> > "Scar" <sama@orbis.pl> wrote in message> > news:5PGdncPfRutMt9­rfRVn-sQ@rogers.com.­..> > >
I noticed over last few days my car when is cold is running much> higher RPM> > > before changes gears then used to do.> > > I checked transmission fluid and it is hard to say if level is> right because> > > there are air bubbles in it.> > > After vehicle warms up gear shifting is smooth .Transmission fluid> looks a> > > little dirty (probably never changed ) , but I am a little afraid> to change> > > it with this mileage.> > > Any idea what's wrong?> > >
Chuck> > > Plymouth Acclaim 92 , 3.0L , 3speed electronic Trans. , 260K km.
I know what way to check if the fluid is bad or so I read. I still> changed> > my fluid and filter. Put a drop on a paper towel. If it does not> bleed> > or spread, the fluid is really bad. Mine did spread but I changed it> anyway,> > including an OEM filter. Just don't FLUSH or whatever nonsense - do> an> > old-fashioned drop the pan, drain, and change the filter. You need to> look> > at what's cooking inside there, just ordinary sludge or bits of> metal.> > You could luck out with just an adjustment or it's another problem.> > But again, no power flushing, nothing but gravity I think should be> okay?> > Also I had the 'tranny 'puter reprogrammed for the tranny.> > Check the engineering bulletins too.> >
However I'm not a mechanic, nor do I play one, except on holidays.>

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Al Davis 9 May 2005 19:15:47 permanent link ]
 I always took good care of my Honda Accord, but last night the transmission
wouldn't lock in at all. First there was a jerk and then the car wouldn't
move. I let it sit for a few seconds and then it would lock-in and move.
Sometimes it goes and sometimes it doesn't. I always kept the fluid changed
and this is the first problem I ever had a problem. This is '92 model with
200,000 miles. The engine still run smooth and saves gas.

Does anyone knows how to check the auto transmission to see if it is a minor
problem? If this is a costly problem, then I will just buy a new car since
it has too many miles.

Thanks,
Al


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Al Davis 9 May 2005 19:16:26 permanent link ]
 I always took good care of my Honda Accord, but last night the transmission
wouldn't lock in at all. First there was a jerk and then the car wouldn't
move. I let the sit for a few seconds and then it would lock-in and move. I
always kept the fluid changed and this is the first problem I ever had. This
is '92 model with 200,000 miles. The engine is still smooth and saves gas.

Does anyone knows how to check the auto transmission to see if it is a minor
problem? If this is a costly problem, then I will just buy a new car since
it has too many miles.

Thanks,
Al


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Motsco_ _ 9 May 2005 20:02:01 permanent link ]
 Al Davis wrote:> I always took good care of my Honda Accord, but last night the transmission> wouldn't lock in at all. First there was a jerk and then the car wouldn't> move. I let it sit for a few seconds and then it would lock-in and move.> Sometimes it goes and sometimes it doesn't. I always kept the fluid changed> and this is the first problem I ever had a problem. This is '92 model with> 200,000 miles. The engine still run smooth and saves gas.>
Does anyone knows how to check the auto transmission to see if it is a minor> problem? If this is a costly problem, then I will just buy a new car since> it has too many miles.>
Thanks,> Al

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How full / what color is the tranny fluid if you wipe the dipstick stick
on a sheet of paper? Are you driving it, and what 'tricks' do you have
to do to make it go? Have you checked your dash indicators to be sure
they aren't trying to tell you something? The instructions are in the
owner's manual. It's called the 'lamp check'.

'Curly'

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John Horner 9 May 2005 20:26:17 permanent link ]
 Al Davis wrote:> I always took good care of my Honda Accord, but last night the transmission> wouldn't lock in at all. First there was a jerk and then the car wouldn't> move. I let it sit for a few seconds and then it would lock-in and move.> Sometimes it goes and sometimes it doesn't. I always kept the fluid changed> and this is the first problem I ever had a problem. This is '92 model with> 200,000 miles. The engine still run smooth and saves gas.

200,000 miles is consider very long life for an automatic transmission.

I suspect that yours is due for a complete rebuild.

John
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Halo2 Guy 9 May 2005 21:50:20 permanent link ]
 The only check you can do is make sure the fluid level is ok..then have it
towed to a transmission shop for an accurate diagnosis.


"Al Davis" <shonnel7@sbcglobal­.net> wrote in message
news:e9Lfe.247$ce6.­197@newssvr30.news.p­rodigy.com...>I always took good care of my Honda Accord, but last night the transmission> wouldn't lock in at all. First there was a jerk and then the car wouldn't> move. I let the sit for a few seconds and then it would lock-in and move. > I> always kept the fluid changed and this is the first problem I ever had. > This> is '92 model with 200,000 miles. The engine is still smooth and saves gas.>
Does anyone knows how to check the auto transmission to see if it is a > minor> problem? If this is a costly problem, then I will just buy a new car since> it has too many miles.>
Thanks,> Al>


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Al Davis 9 May 2005 22:50:04 permanent link ]
 How full / what color is the tranny fluid if you wipe the dipstick stick> on a sheet of paper?
The fluid lever is perfect and the color looks like new fluid with a pinkish
look. I change my fluid every 30k miles.

Are you driving it, and what 'tricks' do you have> to do to make it go?
This happen last night, but I just took it around the block to see if it
would work and there seems to be no problem. This is weird because I know
that something is wrong with it! There was no trick to get it to work last
night. The transmission did what ever it wanted to do. One time there was no
reverse. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. I barely made it home.
Now I can here winding noises is coming from the transmission. This never
happen before.

Have you checked your dash indicators to be sure> they aren't trying to tell you something? The instructions are in the> owner's manual. It's called the 'lamp check'.
Oh yeah......yesterday­, a check engine light came-on for the first time in
history, but the lamp with-out about a minute later.

I hope this help,
--Al




"motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:427F8979.10805­02@interbaun.com...>­ Al Davis wrote:> > I always took good care of my Honda Accord, but last night the
transmission> > wouldn't lock in at all. First there was a jerk and then the car
wouldn't> > move. I let it sit for a few seconds and then it would lock-in and move.> > Sometimes it goes and sometimes it doesn't. I always kept the fluid
changed> > and this is the first problem I ever had a problem. This is '92 model
with> > 200,000 miles. The engine still run smooth and saves gas.> >
Does anyone knows how to check the auto transmission to see if it is a
minor> > problem? If this is a costly problem, then I will just buy a new car
since> > it has too many miles.> >
Thanks,> > Al>
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How full / what color is the tranny fluid if you wipe the dipstick stick> on a sheet of paper? Are you driving it, and what 'tricks' do you have> to do to make it go? Have you checked your dash indicators to be sure> they aren't trying to tell you something? The instructions are in the> owner's manual. It's called the 'lamp check'.>
'Curly'>


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G-Man 9 May 2005 23:18:44 permanent link ]
 Are you using Honda ATF? Other fluids give crappy results.

G-Man


"Al Davis" <shonnel7@sbcglobal­.net> wrote in message
news:e9Lfe.247$ce6.­197@newssvr30.news.p­rodigy.com...>I always took good care of my Honda Accord, but last night the transmission> wouldn't lock in at all. First there was a jerk and then the car wouldn't> move. I let the sit for a few seconds and then it would lock-in and move. > I> always kept the fluid changed and this is the first problem I ever had. > This> is '92 model with 200,000 miles. The engine is still smooth and saves gas.>
Does anyone knows how to check the auto transmission to see if it is a > minor> problem? If this is a costly problem, then I will just buy a new car since> it has too many miles.>
Thanks,> Al>


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Al Davis 9 May 2005 23:22:22 permanent link ]
 I took it to the Honda place. Therefore, I guest so
"G-Man" <g_foreman@yahoo.co­m> wrote in message
news:117vdsnhk34bac­0@news.supernews.com­...> Are you using Honda ATF? Other fluids give crappy results.>
G-Man>
"Al Davis" <shonnel7@sbcglobal­.net> wrote in message> news:e9Lfe.247$ce6.­197@newssvr30.news.p­rodigy.com...> >I always took good care of my Honda Accord, but last night the
transmission> > wouldn't lock in at all. First there was a jerk and then the car
wouldn't> > move. I let the sit for a few seconds and then it would lock-in and
move.> > I> > always kept the fluid changed and this is the first problem I ever had.> > This> > is '92 model with 200,000 miles. The engine is still smooth and saves
gas.> >
Does anyone knows how to check the auto transmission to see if it is a> > minor> > problem? If this is a costly problem, then I will just buy a new car
since> > it has too many miles.> >
Thanks,> > Al> >


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Al Davis 9 May 2005 23:24:39 permanent link ]
 It's making a whining noise like it's low, but it's not.
--Al
"G-Man" <g_foreman@yahoo.co­m> wrote in message
news:117vdsnhk34bac­0@news.supernews.com­...> Are you using Honda ATF? Other fluids give crappy results.>
G-Man>
"Al Davis" <shonnel7@sbcglobal­.net> wrote in message> news:e9Lfe.247$ce6.­197@newssvr30.news.p­rodigy.com...> >I always took good care of my Honda Accord, but last night the
transmission> > wouldn't lock in at all. First there was a jerk and then the car
wouldn't> > move. I let the sit for a few seconds and then it would lock-in and
move.> > I> > always kept the fluid changed and this is the first problem I ever had.> > This> > is '92 model with 200,000 miles. The engine is still smooth and saves
gas.> >
Does anyone knows how to check the auto transmission to see if it is a> > minor> > problem? If this is a costly problem, then I will just buy a new car
since> > it has too many miles.> >
Thanks,> > Al> >


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Elmo P. Shagnasty 9 May 2005 23:35:08 permanent link ]
 In article <e9Lfe.247$ce6.197@­newssvr30.news.prodi­gy.com>,
"Al Davis" <shonnel7@sbcglobal­.net> wrote:
Does anyone knows how to check the auto transmission to see if it is a minor> problem? If this is a costly problem, then I will just buy a new car since> it has too many miles.

I'll take the car off your hands.
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Jans 26 January 2006 02:43:36 permanent link ]
 Lately I noticed the transmission doesn't work too well . When I checked
fluid level I noticed a lot of bubbles on the dip stick ,and basically I
couldn't see what is the level.
Is the level too high , or too low ?

Thanks
Chuck
Plymouth Acclaim 1992 , 3L , 3Speed electronic auto transmission with
overdrive , 262K km.


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NewMan 26 January 2006 19:18:55 permanent link ]
 In my experience, if an automatic has too much fluid, then you can
wind up with bubbles in the fluid. This in not good for the trans at
all. So I would say too much fluid.

However, if you have not added fluid lately, then it seems unlikely.

Since you have 262k km on it, when was the last time it was serviced
(fluid & filter)? If not recently, then you might want to take it to a
reliable shop and get that done. This would resolve the issue.

Note that the 3 speed transmisisons are much more reliable than the 4
speed transmissions. You have my sympathy about the 3.0 litre
Mitsubishi engine though. I used to have a 94 Acclaim with that engine
and the 4 speed trans. Man what a bad combo. Nothing but problems,
problems, problems.

hth

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:43:36 -0500, "Jans" <Nobody@home.com> wrote:
Lately I noticed the transmission doesn't work too well . When I checked >fluid level I noticed a lot of bubbles on the dip stick ,and basically I >couldn't see what is the level.>Is the level too high , or too low ?>
Thanks>Chuck>Plymo­uth Acclaim 1992 , 3L , 3Speed electronic auto transmission with >overdrive , 262K km. >

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Jans 31 January 2006 01:43:44 permanent link ]
 
Thanks

Chuck


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Zoofreak 13 February 2006 19:20:29 permanent link ]
 
They reprogrammed the tranny and it has NEVER happened since. The> problem is if the car is not doing it at THAT very moment when you take> it, they will never find out what is wrong as the code goes away. Ask> them to reprogram it and see what happens.

Here's instructions I have paraphrased form the TDI Club forum :

Transmision reset :
1) With the car NOT running, turn the ignition key to the on position, but
not to the point where it turns the starter.
2) With the car NOTrunning and the key in the on position, push down on the
accelerator pedal all the way, you will feel a "click" at the bottom, not
very apparent, not a loud click. That is some kind of switch you are
actuating.
Leave the pedal down for 20 seconds, (one forum said 6 seconds, I did 20),
then release it.
3) Then turn off the ignition key, (I turned it off and took it out to make
sure I did it correctly).
Now the tranny setting should be reset.
Start the car normally and see if the tranny is working normally.



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Patrick Bennington 14 February 2006 01:49:11 permanent link ]
 I have a 1999 Jetta VR6 and my transmission exploded while I was driving.
It cost well over $3000. Not much fun.


"jettaboistl" <jettaboistl@gmail.­com> wrote in message
news:1139870363.885­532.207530@g44g2000c­wa.googlegroups.com.­..>I tried it and it didnt work. I heard the click and everything. Oh> well I am just going to have to break down and go the dealer. If I> need a new transmission I might as well get a new car for what I hear> it will cost.>


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Matt B. 14 February 2006 19:09:01 permanent link ]
 "jettaboistl" <jettaboistl@gmail.­com> wrote in message
news:1139870363.885­532.207530@g44g2000c­wa.googlegroups.com.­..>I tried it and it didnt work. I heard the click and everything. Oh well I >am just going to have to break down and go the dealer. If I need a new >transmission I might as well get a new car for what I hear it will cost.

Shifting problems often can be caused by dirty fluid, dirty valve body,
and/or low fluid. Have them check it for leaks and replace any bad seals
and change the fluid and filter (there should be a filter inside the
transmission too) and clean the pan. With new clean fluid, clean filter,
and proper fluid level, 85% of auto transmission issues go away.

Since you said it happens at a cold start more often, my bet is low fluid
(and in turn that means a leak). That's not the end of the world at all.
It happens from time to time.


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Flh 1 March 2006 07:53:18 permanent link ]
 Driving home tonight my car wouldn't shift, It would just stay in first
gear. I checked the transmission fluid and it looks good and the car was
driving great when I went home for lunch. The car drives fine except for
the transmission not shifitng, the car is a 1993 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS

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Bob Shuman 2 March 2006 02:06:57 permanent link ]
 Automatic, manual, mileage, any recent maintenance, any preventive
maintenance (ever, and if so, when and what), really stuck in 1st as you say
or is it really 2nd?

You really need to provide some information to get some back.

Bob

"FLH" <farrell29@excite.c­om> wrote in message
news:fef4a688049a8f­746e5eb96758c353b5@l­ocalhost.talkaboutau­tos.com...> Driving home tonight my car wouldn't shift, It would just stay in first> gear. I checked the transmission fluid and it looks good and the car was> driving great when I went home for lunch. The car drives fine except for> the transmission not shifitng, the car is a 1993 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS


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