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Are aftermarket catalytic converters OK?
General Schvantzkoph 15 February 2005 23:01:29
	I have a 94 Concorde with 125K miles on it. I've just had the transmission rebuilt and the transmission shop guys noticed that I had an exhaust system leak which wasn't a surprise since I'd been smelling something for the last month or so. My local mechanic says I need a new catalytic converter. He is going to put in an aftermarket catalytic converter which will cost me $550 vs $1200 for a Chrysler part. Seems like a reasonable price to me assuming that there aren't any major issues with using a non-Chrysler part. I only plan to keep the car for another year or two. Are there any problems with using a non-Chrysler CC?
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Daniel J. Stern 15 February 2005 23:56:23 [ permanent link ]
	On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, General Schvantzkoph wrote: I have a 94 Concorde with 125K miles on it. I've just had the> transmission rebuilt and the transmission shop guys noticed that I had> an exhaust system leak which wasn't a surprise since I'd been smelling> something for the last month or so. My local mechanic says I need a new> catalytic converter. He is going to put in an aftermarket catalytic> converter which will cost me $550 vs $1200 for a Chrysler part. Seems> like a reasonable price to me assuming that there aren't any major> issues with using a non-Chrysler part. I only plan to keep the car for> another year or two. Are there any problems with using a non-Chrysler> CC? None at all, as long as it's a quality unit. I've had good luck with the Catco brand over the years; Walker and Goerlich's also make good converters. $550 still sounds high, even with labor. Check the prices at one of the online sites like www.discountconverter.com or www.napaonline.com . DS
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Nomen Nescio 16 February 2005 02:30:10 [ permanent link ]
	An auto jumbler might have a pre-owned cat. An even better solution is to remove the cat and get a welder to patch it up. A sheet of galvanized makes a perfect repair, good for years. When its off your car, run a water stream through it with the garden hose to check for any constriction. Those cats are good forever unless poisoned with lead. Even when they fail, so long as they're not constricted, you can usually pass a smog test. A lot of cars get tested with a cold cat and that's the same as no cat.
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General Schvantzkoph 16 February 2005 02:41:08 [ permanent link ]
	On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:30:10 +0100, Nomen Nescio wrote: An auto jumbler might have a pre-owned cat.> An even better solution is to remove the cat and get a welder to patch it> up. A sheet of galvanized makes a perfect repair, good for years.> When its off your car, run a water stream through it with the garden hose> to check for any constriction. Those cats are good forever unless poisoned> with lead. Even when they fail, so long as they're not constricted, you> can usually pass a smog test. A lot of cars get tested with a cold cat and> that's the same as no cat. I'm having the work done by my neighborhood auto repair shop, I have no interest in doing it myself nor do I have the necessary skills or tools. I am interested in knowing if the price for the job ($550) is in the right ball park.
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Nate Nagel 16 February 2005 02:45:41 [ permanent link ]
	Nomen Nescio wrote: An auto jumbler might have a pre-owned cat. Highly illegal. nate -- replace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel
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Nomen Nescio 16 February 2005 04:40:07 [ permanent link ]
	An auto jumbler might have a pre-owned cat.> Highly illegal.> nate Since when? And why? As long as it catalizes, why should Big Brother care one way or another? Maybe you live in a foreign dictatorship where extortion overrules reason. Quote a statute or something because I find this hard to believe.
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Bill Putney 16 February 2005 05:01:03 [ permanent link ]
	Nomen Nescio wrote: An auto jumbler might have a pre-owned cat.>> Highly illegal.>> nate> Since when? And why? As long as it catalizes, why should Big Brother care> one way or another?> Maybe you live in a foreign dictatorship where extortion overrules reason.> Quote a statute or something because I find this hard to believe. Posted in many jumk yards these days (might even be mandatory that they post it - not sure about that) - but the poster I see in all the junk yards cites the federal regs. on the subject. I would think that with such a law, a junk yard would be foolish to try to get away with it because it would be too easy for the feds to send in a secret shopper to entrap them. Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my adddress with the letter 'x')
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Steve 16 February 2005 20:31:16 [ permanent link ]
	aarcuda69062 wrote: In article <228514e3b550f8f61670786171d70d90@dizum.com>,> Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:> An auto jumbler might have a pre-owned cat.> They might, but they aren't allowed to resell them.> An even better solution is to remove the cat and get a welder to patch it>>up. A sheet of galvanized makes a perfect repair, good for years.> Weld galvanized? Are you nuts or what? Of course he's nuts, its "Nomen." Don't encourage the troll.
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General Schvantzkoph 9 May 2006 16:45:08 [ permanent link ]
	On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:56:23 -0500, Daniel J. Stern wrote: On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, General Schvantzkoph wrote:> I have a 94 Concorde with 125K miles on it. I've just had the>> transmission rebuilt and the transmission shop guys noticed that I had>> an exhaust system leak which wasn't a surprise since I'd been smelling>> something for the last month or so. My local mechanic says I need a new>> catalytic converter. He is going to put in an aftermarket catalytic>> converter which will cost me $550 vs $1200 for a Chrysler part. Seems>> like a reasonable price to me assuming that there aren't any major>> issues with using a non-Chrysler part. I only plan to keep the car for>> another year or two. Are there any problems with using a non-Chrysler>> CC?> None at all, as long as it's a quality unit. I've had good luck with the> Catco brand over the years; Walker and Goerlich's also make good> converters. $550 still sounds high, even with labor. Check the prices at> one of the online sites like www.discountconverter.com or> www.napaonline.com .> DS That price is with labor. What do you think is a reasonable price for this job? BTW I live in Massachusetts which is a high cost state.
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Frank Boettcher 9 May 2006 19:19:42 [ permanent link ]
	On Tue, 09 May 2006 08:45:08 -0400, General Schvantzkoph <schvantzkoph@yahoo.com> wrote: On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:56:23 -0500, Daniel J. Stern wrote:> On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, General Schvantzkoph wrote:>> I have a 94 Concorde with 125K miles on it. I've just had the>>> transmission rebuilt and the transmission shop guys noticed that I had>>> an exhaust system leak which wasn't a surprise since I'd been smelling>>> something for the last month or so. My local mechanic says I need a new>>> catalytic converter. He is going to put in an aftermarket catalytic>>> converter which will cost me $550 vs $1200 for a Chrysler part. Seems>>> like a reasonable price to me assuming that there aren't any major>>> issues with using a non-Chrysler part. I only plan to keep the car for>>> another year or two. Are there any problems with using a non-Chrysler>>> CC?>> None at all, as long as it's a quality unit. I've had good luck with the>> Catco brand over the years; Walker and Goerlich's also make good>> converters. $550 still sounds high, even with labor. Check the prices at>> one of the online sites like www.discountconverter.com or>> www.napaonline.com .>> That price is with labor. What do you think is a reasonable price for this>job? BTW I live in Massachusetts which is a high cost state. Given the fact that Chrysler just settled a lawsuit with the EPA that caused them to extend the warranty on many of their Catalytic converters because they were failing at such an alarming rate, I think taking a chance on an after market is not a bad idea. $550 sounds high. Installation shouldn't be more than a couple of shop hours tops. I just purchased a Catco for my Dodge truck for self installation at $134. BTW the Catco has a 5 year warranty. Frank
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Steve 9 May 2006 23:42:34 [ permanent link ]
	General Schvantzkoph wrote: On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:56:23 -0500, Daniel J. Stern wrote:> On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, General Schvantzkoph wrote:>> I have a 94 Concorde with 125K miles on it. I've just had the>>>transmission rebuilt and the transmission shop guys noticed that I had>>>an exhaust system leak which wasn't a surprise since I'd been smelling>>>something for the last month or so. My local mechanic says I need a new>>>catalytic converter. He is going to put in an aftermarket catalytic>>>converter which will cost me $550 vs $1200 for a Chrysler part. Seems>>>like a reasonable price to me assuming that there aren't any major>>>issues with using a non-Chrysler part. I only plan to keep the car for>>>another year or two. Are there any problems with using a non-Chrysler>>>CC?>> None at all, as long as it's a quality unit. I've had good luck with the>>Catco brand over the years; Walker and Goerlich's also make good>>converters. $550 still sounds high, even with labor. Check the prices at>>one of the online sites like www.discountconverter.com or>>www.napaonline.com .>> That price is with labor. What do you think is a reasonable price for this> job? BTW I live in Massachusetts which is a high cost state.> That's not "high cost" thats "highway robbery." Ahem: http://napaonline.com/masterpages/NOLMaster.aspx?PageId=430&CatId=6&SubCatId=3 OR http://tinyurl.com/hbbg3 I recently installed the one on that page listed as "universal fit premium" myself in my driveway in about an hour. I am familiar with working on cars and had a big tubing cutter to remove the old convertor easily, so I'm not recommending that you do that yourself, but $500 should get you an OEM-equivalent quality convertor INSTALLED on this vehicle.
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Ted Mittelstaedt 10 May 2006 13:41:02 [ permanent link ]
	"General Schvantzkoph" <schvantzkoph@yahoo.com> wrote in message newsan.2005.02.15.20.07.08.82507@yahoo.com...> On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:56:23 -0500, Daniel J. Stern wrote:> On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, General Schvantzkoph wrote:> > I have a 94 Concorde with 125K miles on it. I've just had the> >> transmission rebuilt and the transmission shop guys noticed that I had> >> an exhaust system leak which wasn't a surprise since I'd been smelling> >> something for the last month or so. My local mechanic says I need a new> >> catalytic converter. He is going to put in an aftermarket catalytic> >> converter which will cost me $550 vs $1200 for a Chrysler part. Seems> >> like a reasonable price to me assuming that there aren't any major> >> issues with using a non-Chrysler part. I only plan to keep the car for> >> another year or two. Are there any problems with using a non-Chrysler> >> CC?> > None at all, as long as it's a quality unit. I've had good luck with the> > Catco brand over the years; Walker and Goerlich's also make good> > converters. $550 still sounds high, even with labor. Check the prices one of the online sites like www.discountconverter.com or> > www.napaonline.com .> > That price is with labor. What do you think is a reasonable price for this> job? BTW I live in Massachusetts which is a high cost state. If your only going to keep the car for a few more years and the catcon is still doing it's job of reducing emissions, then go to an exhaust place and they should be able to weld a patch over the hole. Of course, it won't last permanently but it should last until you sell the car. Keep in mind that because of where you live and the age of the car, there's a good chance that the entire exhaust system is getting close to being rotted out anyway. Might as well patch it and wait for it to be completely rotted out, then replace everything. Ted
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Dori A Schmetterling 10 May 2006 20:16:20 [ permanent link ]
	Could it be completely rotted in? DAS For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling --- "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com> wrote in message news:newscache$fwm1zi$l4n1$1@news.ipinc.net... [...] to be completely rotted out, [...]
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