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CarGuru > BMW > From 7 series to X5 ?? 24 April 2005 20:20:54

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From 7 series to X5 ??

Paul Aspinall 24 April 2005 20:20:54
 Hi
I have owned 2 BMW 740s, and lately a 745Li.

I am thinking of moving to an X5. All of them seem very thirsty by
comparison to my 7 series, with the exception of the 3.0d. However, I'm
going for a test drive in one tomorrow hopefully.

Can anyone offer any points to note on buying an X5?? Is there anything in
particular which is a must to have??
Also, the 7 series seems to depreciate heavily in comparison to the X5's.

I'm just generally interested in any views on the X5, as a vehicle, and
maybe any views on depreciation. (in particular the 3.0d)

Thanks in advance


Paul
'98 740 Sport
'00 740 Sport
'02 745Li


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John 23 April 2005 22:50:24 permanent link ]
 If you find the X5 feels a bit heavy, try an X3. I have all three--745Li, X5
and X3. The 745 is a dream to drive although the electronics (Xdrive) are
overkill. The X5 has more luxury than the X3 but the sportier feel of the X3
I find to my liking. Also the '05 model's CD player also plays mp3s, the
best thing ever. Bluetooth is great too.


"Paul Aspinall" <paul@aspy.co.uk> wrote in message
news:aUvae.10492$TZ­6.8344@fe3.news.blue­yonder.co.uk...> Hi> I have owned 2 BMW 740s, and lately a 745Li.>
I am thinking of moving to an X5. All of them seem very thirsty by> comparison to my 7 series, with the exception of the 3.0d. However, I'm> going for a test drive in one tomorrow hopefully.>
Can anyone offer any points to note on buying an X5?? Is there anything in> particular which is a must to have??> Also, the 7 series seems to depreciate heavily in comparison to the X5's.>
I'm just generally interested in any views on the X5, as a vehicle, and> maybe any views on depreciation. (in particular the 3.0d)>
Thanks in advance>
Paul> '98 740 Sport> '00 740 Sport> '02 745Li>


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R. Mark Clayton 24 April 2005 01:36:55 permanent link ]
 I have had three 735's (two manual's) and currently a 740.

I had a drive in a relative's X5. They live in the sticks and he has a job
that sometimes takes him off road, so a 4x4 is justified.

Although a lot better than say a Pajero, the whole drive an ride was rather
wallowy and reminiscent of an American car or a Lexus. Most modern saloon
cars feel better than this.

If you have a genuine need for a 4x4 (e.g. farmer, civil engineer, tow
yachts etc.) then get an X5 or a Range Rover, otherwise stick to a 7 series
or at worst get a an old 4WD 5 series.

"Paul Aspinall" <paul@aspy.co.uk> wrote in message
news:aUvae.10492$TZ­6.8344@fe3.news.blue­yonder.co.uk...> Hi> I have owned 2 BMW 740s, and lately a 745Li.>
I am thinking of moving to an X5. All of them seem very thirsty by > comparison to my 7 series, with the exception of the 3.0d. However, I'm > going for a test drive in one tomorrow hopefully.>
Can anyone offer any points to note on buying an X5?? Is there anything in > particular which is a must to have??> Also, the 7 series seems to depreciate heavily in comparison to the X5's.>
I'm just generally interested in any views on the X5, as a vehicle, and > maybe any views on depreciation. (in particular the 3.0d)>
Thanks in advance>
Paul> '98 740 Sport> '00 740 Sport> '02 745Li>


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Steve Garey 24 April 2005 17:46:07 permanent link ]
 I was thinking the same - swapping my E65 730d for an X5 3.0d. You are right
about the depreciation. However, I then thought about other considerations -
comfort - the E65 must be better in this respect. Then how about running
costs? Those tyres on the X5 are probably much more than those on my 730d
SE. Also, I'll get better fuel consumption.

Finally, the X5 is starting to show it's age now - the dash is based on the
old E39. The E65 is much more modern ( assuming you like that sort of
thing.)

After all these considerations, I decided to stay with my E65, although I
know I'll take the hit when it comes to trade in time - however, that's at
today's values. With the government possibly about to declare war on 4x4s
after the election, the cost of running one might escalate so much as to
have an effect on future trade in values - look what happened to hot hatches
when nobody could afford to insure them.

Steve


"Paul Aspinall" <paul@aspy.co.uk> wrote in message
news:aUvae.10492$TZ­6.8344@fe3.news.blue­yonder.co.uk...> Hi> I have owned 2 BMW 740s, and lately a 745Li.>
I am thinking of moving to an X5. All of them seem very thirsty by> comparison to my 7 series, with the exception of the 3.0d. However, I'm> going for a test drive in one tomorrow hopefully.>
Can anyone offer any points to note on buying an X5?? Is there anything in> particular which is a must to have??> Also, the 7 series seems to depreciate heavily in comparison to the X5's.>
I'm just generally interested in any views on the X5, as a vehicle, and> maybe any views on depreciation. (in particular the 3.0d)>
Thanks in advance>
Paul> '98 740 Sport> '00 740 Sport> '02 745Li>


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Paul Aspinall 24 April 2005 18:38:05 permanent link ]
 Hi Steve,

Yeah, I know what you mean. However, mine is a 745Li E66.... I'm not sure if
they'll be declaring war on me also.

My consumption figures, quoted by BMW are:
Urban (mpg): 17.8
Extra Urban (mpg): 33.2
Combined (mpg) 25.2

I currently only work 9 miles from home, so thats not bad. However, if I
change jobs, I'll be taking a huge hit on fuel.
Not looked up the X5 3.0d consumption figures, yet, but I expect they'll be
similar. I'll check them now!!

I'm also thinking about getting an older shape 530d. I'm not keen on the new
shape 5 series.

Why do the 7 series depreciate so much?? They're such good cars, I can't
understand why the price falls so dramatically... especially from 30k...
Does anyone have any predictions as to values of 745Li in future?? or
possibly future predictions for other models....
I'm starting to take an interest in depreciation costs...... probably a bit
late now that I've had the car for 12 months!!!, and 2 740's prior to that!!

Cheers


Paul


"Steve Garey" <steve.garey@virgin­.net> wrote in message
news:zqNae.4063$wu2­.525@newsfe1-gui.ntl­i.net...>I was thinking the same - swapping my E65 730d for an X5 3.0d. You are >right> about the depreciation. However, I then thought about other > considerations -> comfort - the E65 must be better in this respect. Then how about running> costs? Those tyres on the X5 are probably much more than those on my 730d> SE. Also, I'll get better fuel consumption.>
Finally, the X5 is starting to show it's age now - the dash is based on > the> old E39. The E65 is much more modern ( assuming you like that sort of> thing.)>
After all these considerations, I decided to stay with my E65, although I> know I'll take the hit when it comes to trade in time - however, that's at> today's values. With the government possibly about to declare war on 4x4s> after the election, the cost of running one might escalate so much as to> have an effect on future trade in values - look what happened to hot > hatches> when nobody could afford to insure them.>
Steve>
"Paul Aspinall" <paul@aspy.co.uk> wrote in message> news:aUvae.10492$TZ­6.8344@fe3.news.blue­yonder.co.uk...>> Hi>> I have owned 2 BMW 740s, and lately a 745Li.>>
I am thinking of moving to an X5. All of them seem very thirsty by>> comparison to my 7 series, with the exception of the 3.0d. However, I'm>> going for a test drive in one tomorrow hopefully.>>
Can anyone offer any points to note on buying an X5?? Is there anything >> in>> particular which is a must to have??>> Also, the 7 series seems to depreciate heavily in comparison to the X5's.>>
I'm just generally interested in any views on the X5, as a vehicle, and>> maybe any views on depreciation. (in particular the 3.0d)>>
Thanks in advance>>
Paul>> '98 740 Sport>> '00 740 Sport>> '02 745Li>>


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Steve Garey 24 April 2005 20:20:54 permanent link ]
 Paul

The E65/66 probably depreciate heavily due in part to heavy discounting from
dealers. You can haggle & get 4K off. Ask for a discount on an X5 and there
is more chance of David Beckham joining Scunthorpe United (apologies to any
Scunthorpe fans!) Also, there is at least a 6 month wait on an X5, so if you
want to make money get your new one delivered & sell it on E Bay - I'm not
joking have a look. Again you need to think if this situation will remain
constant over the coming years.

Cheers


"Paul Aspinall" <paul@aspy.co.uk> wrote in message
news:hbOae.18905$TZ­6.12893@fe3.news.blu­eyonder.co.uk...> Hi Steve,>
Yeah, I know what you mean. However, mine is a 745Li E66.... I'm not sure
they'll be declaring war on me also.>
My consumption figures, quoted by BMW are:> Urban (mpg): 17.8> Extra Urban (mpg): 33.2> Combined (mpg) 25.2>
I currently only work 9 miles from home, so thats not bad. However, if I> change jobs, I'll be taking a huge hit on fuel.> Not looked up the X5 3.0d consumption figures, yet, but I expect they'll
similar. I'll check them now!!>
I'm also thinking about getting an older shape 530d. I'm not keen on the
shape 5 series.>
Why do the 7 series depreciate so much?? They're such good cars, I can't> understand why the price falls so dramatically... especially from 30k...> Does anyone have any predictions as to values of 745Li in future?? or> possibly future predictions for other models....> I'm starting to take an interest in depreciation costs...... probably a
late now that I've had the car for 12 months!!!, and 2 740's prior to
that!!>
Cheers>
Paul>
"Steve Garey" <steve.garey@virgin­.net> wrote in message> news:zqNae.4063$wu2­.525@newsfe1-gui.ntl­i.net...> >I was thinking the same - swapping my E65 730d for an X5 3.0d. You are> >right> > about the depreciation. However, I then thought about other> > considerations -> > comfort - the E65 must be better in this respect. Then how about running> > costs? Those tyres on the X5 are probably much more than those on my
730d> > SE. Also, I'll get better fuel consumption.> >
Finally, the X5 is starting to show it's age now - the dash is based on> > the> > old E39. The E65 is much more modern ( assuming you like that sort of> > thing.)> >
After all these considerations, I decided to stay with my E65, although
know I'll take the hit when it comes to trade in time - however, that's
today's values. With the government possibly about to declare war on
4x4s> > after the election, the cost of running one might escalate so much as to> > have an effect on future trade in values - look what happened to hot> > hatches> > when nobody could afford to insure them.> >
Steve> >
"Paul Aspinall" <paul@aspy.co.uk> wrote in message> > news:aUvae.10492$TZ­6.8344@fe3.news.blue­yonder.co.uk...> >> Hi> >> I have owned 2 BMW 740s, and lately a 745Li.> >>
I am thinking of moving to an X5. All of them seem very thirsty by> >> comparison to my 7 series, with the exception of the 3.0d. However, I'm> >> going for a test drive in one tomorrow hopefully.> >>
Can anyone offer any points to note on buying an X5?? Is there anything> >> in> >> particular which is a must to have??> >> Also, the 7 series seems to depreciate heavily in comparison to the
X5's.> >>
I'm just generally interested in any views on the X5, as a vehicle, and> >> maybe any views on depreciation. (in particular the 3.0d)> >>
Thanks in advance> >>
Paul> >> '98 740 Sport> >> '00 740 Sport> >> '02 745Li> >>


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