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Re: Best tires to minimize Z3 tramlining?
Al Floer 9 April 2005 02:01:59
	I have a M roadster 2000. I have used the Mich Pilots, Yoko AVS Sport and Kuhmo Exta MX. The bet tire for the price is Kuhmo. I use them as everyday tires, and have even Autocrossed them with great results. Look at the Kuhmo MX as the base line and compare all other to that. Look at TireRack comments for your car and tires you wish to compare against. Alf "fbloogyudsr" <fbloogyudsr@nwlink.com> wrote in message news:114bvvtsuir091c@corp.supernews.com...> "rocketman" <rocketman@bikerider.com> wrote>> On the first test drive of my 2000 Z3 last summer, I noticed excessive >> tramlining. The tires it came with were a worn set of Goodyear Eagle >> RS-A 225/50R16's. Rear tires are ready for replacement, front tires are >> barely worn. Looks like somebody might have cheaped-out and replaced the >> fronts instead of all 4. The Goodyears are decent; but I'm betting there >> are better tires out there. So, I'm looking for great set of tires for my >> Z3>> Here are my tire buying criteria, in order of importance:>> Minimal tramlining>> Low road noise>> Good wet traction>> Smooth ride (not harsh)>> Predictable cornering>> Good looks>> Affordable>> Since this is not a winter car, and never will be, I'm not concerned >> about snow/ice traction. I have been known to engage in "spirited" >> cornering, so the tires should be designed for that.>> FWIW: I buy all of my tires from the Tire Rack in Indiana. For 10 years >> I have had fantastic service, and unbeatable prices from them.> The Michelin Pilot Sport A/S that are on my wife's Boxster are nice,> and meet your requirements.> Floyd
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Pete 6 April 2005 11:33:55 [ permanent link ]
	Here are my tire buying criteria, in order of importance:>>> Minimal tramlining>>> Low road noise>>> Good wet traction>>> Smooth ride (not harsh)>>> Predictable cornering>>> Good looks>>> Affordable I can honestly recommend ContiSportContact2. They don't meet the last two criteria, but then again, they're at the bottom of your list - can't have it all. Cheers, Pete
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Malt_Hound 6 April 2005 19:53:30 [ permanent link ]
	Al Floer wrote:> I have a M roadster 2000. I have used the Mich Pilots, Yoko AVS Sport and > Kuhmo Exta MX. The bet tire for the price is Kuhmo. I use them as everyday > tires, and have even Autocrossed them with great results. Look at the Kuhmo > MX as the base line and compare all other to that. Look at TireRack > comments for your car and tires you wish to compare against.> Alf Alf, What is your impression of the Ecsta MXes specifically in regard to tramlining? The reason that I ask is I have some Ecsta Supra 712's in size 225/50-16 on some Z-star wheels on my 325i and they are horrible in this regard. They didn't seem too bad when they were fresh, but now after about 10k miles they follow every groove in the road. Also, the OE rear tires on my Z3 are pretty well shot after 20k miles and I may not be able to match the Michelins exactly. Looking for alternatives... TIA, -Fred W
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Jeff Strickland 6 April 2005 23:36:10 [ permanent link ]
	"Malt_Hound" <Malt_Hound@spamyahoo.com> wrote in message news:gIOdnYhFP4lmmMnfRVn-ig@adelphia.com...> Al Floer wrote:> > I have a M roadster 2000. I have used the Mich Pilots, Yoko AVS Sport Kuhmo Exta MX. The bet tire for the price is Kuhmo. I use them as everyday> > tires, and have even Autocrossed them with great results. Look at the Kuhmo> > MX as the base line and compare all other to that. Look at TireRack> > comments for your car and tires you wish to compare against.> > Alf,> What is your impression of the Ecsta MXes specifically in regard to> tramlining?> I have the Ecsta ASXs on my '94 325i, mounted on 17" rims, and they are very good at not following the grooves on the freeway. I use the 225/45x17s, which replace the 225/55x15s that came stock on my car. The 15s were a Michelin tire, Pilot MXM I think, and they followed the grooves quite easily, but I never thought it a problem. The Kuhmos don't follow the grooves on the same section of freeway that I drive, so they must be an improvement.
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Tom Korth 7 April 2005 01:33:28 [ permanent link ]
	"Pete" <escape2music@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:d303d8$fn6$1@inews.gazeta.pl...> Here are my tire buying criteria, in order of importance:>>>> Minimal tramlining>>>> Low road noise>>>> Good wet traction>>>> Smooth ride (not harsh)>>>> Predictable cornering>>>> Good looks>>>> Affordable> I can honestly recommend ContiSportContact2. They don't meet the last two > criteria, but then again, they're at the bottom of your list - can't have > it all. > Actually, I replaced the OEM tires on my Z3 with the original Conti SportContacts and the tramlining was minimal. FWIW, The SportContact 2s on my E46 sedan seem to follow the grooves more - but it is a different car with different sized wheels. Tom
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Tom Korth 7 April 2005 01:39:32 [ permanent link ]
	"Malt_Hound" <Malt_Hound@spamyahoo.com> wrote in message news:gIOdnYhFP4lmmMnfRVn-ig@adelphia.com...> Also, the OE rear tires on my Z3 are pretty well shot after 20k miles and > I may not be able to match the Michelins exactly. Looking for > alternatives...> If your OEM Michelins are 225/50 ZR 16" HX MXM, Tire Rack has them in stock for $179 each. I wouldn't recommend different tire treads on the front & rear, as tramlining may then turn out to be the least of your problems! Tom
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Malt_Hound 7 April 2005 17:53:58 [ permanent link ]
	Jeff Strickland wrote:> "Malt_Hound" <Malt_Hound@spamyahoo.com> wrote in message> news:gIOdnYhFP4lmmMnfRVn-ig@adelphia.com...> Al Floer wrote:>> I have a M roadster 2000. I have used the Mich Pilots, Yoko AVS Sport> Kuhmo Exta MX. The bet tire for the price is Kuhmo. I use them as> everyday> tires, and have even Autocrossed them with great results. Look at the> Kuhmo> MX as the base line and compare all other to that. Look at TireRack>>>comments for your car and tires you wish to compare against.>>> Alf,>> What is your impression of the Ecsta MXes specifically in regard to>>tramlining?>> I have the Ecsta ASXs on my '94 325i, mounted on 17" rims, and they are very> good at not following the grooves on the freeway. I use the 225/45x17s,> which replace the 225/55x15s that came stock on my car. The 15s were a> Michelin tire, Pilot MXM I think, and they followed the grooves quite> easily, but I never thought it a problem. The Kuhmos don't follow the> grooves on the same section of freeway that I drive, so they must be an> improvement.> Thanks, good info. I'm thinking I don't really want All-seasons though, so the MX would be my choice. Does anyone have any experience with the BFGoodrich g-Force Sports? They seem like an awesome deal at Tire Rack at $80 for the 225/50ZR16's I need for both my 325i and Z3. I have heard very good reports about BFGs lately. I think their association with Michelin is a good thing for quality, and their prices are much more reasonable than the Michelins. As a point of reference, the (Asian) Kumho Ecsta MX'es are $115 and ASX'es are $74 in the same size. -Fred W
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Malt_Hound 7 April 2005 17:56:20 [ permanent link ]
	Tom Korth wrote:> "Malt_Hound" <Malt_Hound@spamyahoo.com> wrote in message > news:gIOdnYhFP4lmmMnfRVn-ig@adelphia.com...> Also, the OE rear tires on my Z3 are pretty well shot after 20k miles and >>I may not be able to match the Michelins exactly. Looking for >>alternatives...>> If your OEM Michelins are 225/50 ZR 16" HX MXM, Tire Rack has them in stock > for $179 each. I wouldn't recommend different tire treads on the front & > rear, as tramlining may then turn out to be the least of your problems! Yeah, thanks Tom. I know they are available, but at that price I can almost replace all 4 corners and probably end up with a better tire to boot. The HXes are an OK tire, but not worth that kind of coin IMO. -Fred W
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Tom Korth 8 April 2005 01:51:39 [ permanent link ]
	"Malt_Hound" <Malt_Hound@spamyahoo.com> wrote in message news:II2dnSueZfiZocjfRVn-oA@adelphia.com...> Yeah, thanks Tom. I know they are available, but at that price I can > almost replace all 4 corners and probably end up with a better tire to > boot. The HXes are an OK tire, but not worth that kind of coin IMO.> -Fred W No argument there! Tom
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+ Rob + 8 April 2005 03:13:37 [ permanent link ]
	"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message news:UIWdnf_GKdzFp8nfRVn-vA@ez2.net...> "Malt_Hound" <Malt_Hound@spamyahoo.com> wrote in message> news:gIOdnYhFP4lmmMnfRVn-ig@adelphia.com...> > Al Floer wrote:> > > I have a M roadster 2000. I have used the Mich Pilots, Yoko AVS Sport> and> > > Kuhmo Exta MX. The bet tire for the price is Kuhmo. I use them as> everyday> > > tires, and have even Autocrossed them with great results. Look at the> Kuhmo> > > MX as the base line and compare all other to that. Look at TireRack> > > comments for your car and tires you wish to compare against.> > > Alf,> > What is your impression of the Ecsta MXes specifically in regard to> > tramlining?> > I have the Ecsta ASXs on my '94 325i, mounted on 17" rims, and they are very> good at not following the grooves on the freeway. I use the 225/45x17s,> which replace the 225/55x15s that came stock on my car. The 15s were a> Michelin tire, Pilot MXM I think, and they followed the grooves quite> easily, but I never thought it a problem. The Kuhmos don't follow the> grooves on the same section of freeway that I drive, so they must be an> improvement. I put a set of Ecsta ASX's on my Audi TT 3.2 and couldn't be happier. In terms of Price/Performance, they are one of the great bargains in the marketplace.
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Malt_Hound 8 April 2005 19:11:41 [ permanent link ]
	+ Rob + wrote: I put a set of Ecsta ASX's on my Audi TT 3.2 and couldn't be happier. In> terms of Price/Performance, they are one of the great bargains in the> marketplace.> Thanks Rob. Thats two votes for those. I'll keep that in mind. -Fred W
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Jeff Strickland 9 April 2005 02:01:59 [ permanent link ]
	"Malt_Hound" <Malt_Hound@spamyahoo.com> wrote in message news:II2dnSueZfiZocjfRVn-oA@adelphia.com...> Tom Korth wrote:> > "Malt_Hound" <Malt_Hound@spamyahoo.com> wrote in message> > news:gIOdnYhFP4lmmMnfRVn-ig@adelphia.com...> > Also, the OE rear tires on my Z3 are pretty well shot after 20k miles I may not be able to match the Michelins exactly. Looking for> >>alternatives...> >> If your OEM Michelins are 225/50 ZR 16" HX MXM, Tire Rack has them in stock> > for $179 each. I wouldn't recommend different tire treads on the front &> > rear, as tramlining may then turn out to be the least of your problems!> Yeah, thanks Tom. I know they are available, but at that price I can> almost replace all 4 corners and probably end up with a better tire to> boot. The HXes are an OK tire, but not worth that kind of coin IMO.> -Fred W That's the truth! I bought a complete set (5) of 17" MotorSport rims and Kuhmo Ecsta ASX tires, and by the next 4 tires, I will have saved more than the cost of the rims as compared to the 15" Michelins I had before. My Michelins cost $250, installed. Four of them cost me $1000. I bought 5 new rims and new tires for around $1300. The next go around for new tires will save me more than I spent to get the rims so I could fit the cheaper tires. And the cheaper tires are not only better looking but they are better tires, so I got a bonus.
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