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Too good of a deal to be true?
Awwwkrap 8 April 2005 09:03:30
	Hey I just came across a 2002 BMW M3 on the web for $9000. Thats right, nine thousand dollars. The owner is European and says this car was American bought and because he cannot change it according to European standards, he must now sell it out. He says he has a small company in France. He cannot take finance, money has to be electronically transferred through "Ebay square trade". Now I have a question, is ebay square trade going to protect me and my money from being frauded? I am not familiar with this..... He tells me that only if the car is shipped and in advertised condition to MY satisfaction, does square trade get verification from me to wire this guy my money. Is this true? Because this is an international transaction, I am skeptical about this. What I ultimately wanna know is if "Ebay square trade" will prevent me from a scam...(car not being sent after recieving money). Would square trade send the money ONLY AFTER i give the okay?
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Blk Knight 6 April 2005 01:43:09 [ permanent link ]
	Sounds fishy. American mods are more stringent than European, so he should have no problem. When I was in the service (USAF) I shipped my Volkswagen to Germany and had no problems with their inspection.. If it sounds to good to be true chances are it is. -- Ed Smith "Awwwkrap" <capt_liu@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:e844aa7d8ed3b5a70710238bd5f67ef2@localhost.talkaboutautos.com...> Hey I just came across a 2002 BMW M3 on the web for $9000. Thats right,> nine thousand dollars.> The owner is European and says this car was American bought and because he> cannot change it according to European standards, he must now sell it out.> He says he has a small company in France. He cannot take finance, money> has to be electronically transferred through "Ebay square trade".> Now I have a question, is ebay square trade going to protect me and my> money from being frauded? I am not familiar with this.....> He tells me that only if the car is shipped and in advertised condition to> MY satisfaction, does square trade get verification from me to wire this> guy my money. Is this true?> Because this is an international transaction, I am skeptical about this.> What I ultimately wanna know is if "Ebay square trade" will prevent me> from a scam...(car not being sent after recieving money). Would square> trade send the money ONLY AFTER i give the okay?>
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Joe C 6 April 2005 02:12:54 [ permanent link ]
	Step back, take a deep breadth, do you really think you will get 2002 BMW M3 for $9000? "Awwwkrap" <capt_liu@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:e844aa7d8ed3b5a70710238bd5f67ef2@localhost.talkaboutautos.com...> Hey I just came across a 2002 BMW M3 on the web for $9000. Thats right,> nine thousand dollars.> The owner is European and says this car was American bought and because he> cannot change it according to European standards, he must now sell it out.> He says he has a small company in France. He cannot take finance, money> has to be electronically transferred through "Ebay square trade".> Now I have a question, is ebay square trade going to protect me and my> money from being frauded? I am not familiar with this.....> He tells me that only if the car is shipped and in advertised condition to> MY satisfaction, does square trade get verification from me to wire this> guy my money. Is this true?> Because this is an international transaction, I am skeptical about this.> What I ultimately wanna know is if "Ebay square trade" will prevent me> from a scam...(car not being sent after recieving money). Would square> trade send the money ONLY AFTER i give the okay?>
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Tech27 6 April 2005 05:27:36 [ permanent link ]
	As the scammer, er, vendor, if he will agree to sell it via an escrow service. That's the only way to do this (well, maybe not THIS) kind of thing. You send the money to an escrow service. He doesn't get it, but he is told that the money is there so he can ship the merchandise. When the merchandise arrives, and it's a real M3 (not a die cast model), you inform the escrow service that you are authorizing them to release the funds. Simple. If you "came across" it on the web, and not on eBay, there is no eBay protection (such as it is), if it was not listed on eBay. Or just save yourself some time, and forget about it. "Joe C" <no-more-spam@no-spam.com> wrote in message news:Y2E4e.645$_I4.364@fe11.lga...> Step back, take a deep breadth, do you really think> you will get 2002 BMW M3 for $9000?> "Awwwkrap" <capt_liu@hotmail.com> wrote in message> news:e844aa7d8ed3b5a70710238bd5f67ef2@localhost.talkaboutautos.com...>> Hey I just came across a 2002 BMW M3 on the web for $9000. Thats right,>> nine thousand dollars.>> The owner is European and says this car was American bought and because >> he>> cannot change it according to European standards, he must now sell it >> out.>> He says he has a small company in France. He cannot take finance, money>> has to be electronically transferred through "Ebay square trade".>> Now I have a question, is ebay square trade going to protect me and my>> money from being frauded? I am not familiar with this.....>> He tells me that only if the car is shipped and in advertised condition >> to>> MY satisfaction, does square trade get verification from me to wire this>> guy my money. Is this true?>> Because this is an international transaction, I am skeptical about this.>> What I ultimately wanna know is if "Ebay square trade" will prevent me>> from a scam...(car not being sent after recieving money). Would square>> trade send the money ONLY AFTER i give the okay?>>
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Somebody 6 April 2005 08:18:24 [ permanent link ]
	"tech27" <tech27@mail.anonymizer.com> wrote in message news:eWG4e.60739$NC6.56257@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net...> As the scammer, er, vendor, if he will agree to sell it via an escrow> service. That's the only way to do this (well, maybe not THIS) kind of> thing. You send the money to an escrow service. He doesn't get it, but he told that the money is there so he can ship the merchandise. When the> merchandise arrives, and it's a real M3 (not a die cast model), you inform> the escrow service that you are authorizing them to release the funds.> Simple.> If you "came across" it on the web, and not on eBay, there is no eBay> protection (such as it is), if it was not listed on eBay.> Or just save yourself some time, and forget about it. ALERT with that one -- this is a reasonable precaution, and good scammers are quite willing to use an escrow service and will suggest one to use -- only it's a completely fake one they've set up for that very purpose in advance. Complete with phony website, phones, etc. It's happened, really. -Russ.
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Tech27 6 April 2005 08:21:04 [ permanent link ]
	"Somebody" <somebody@nospam.russdoucet.com> wrote in message news:mqJ4e.779$5u4.2752@nnrp1.uunet.ca...> "tech27" <tech27@mail.anonymizer.com> wrote in message> news:eWG4e.60739$NC6.56257@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net...>> As the scammer, er, vendor, if he will agree to sell it via an escrow>> service. That's the only way to do this (well, maybe not THIS) kind of>> thing. You send the money to an escrow service. He doesn't get it, but he> is>> told that the money is there so he can ship the merchandise. When the>> merchandise arrives, and it's a real M3 (not a die cast model), you >> inform>> the escrow service that you are authorizing them to release the funds.>> Simple.>> If you "came across" it on the web, and not on eBay, there is no eBay>> protection (such as it is), if it was not listed on eBay.>> Or just save yourself some time, and forget about it.> ALERT with that one -- this is a reasonable precaution, and good scammers> are quite willing to use an escrow service and will suggest one to use -- > only it's a completely fake one they've set up for that very purpose in> advance. Complete with phony website, phones, etc. It's happened, > really.> -Russ. No doubt. Make that "Use a know, reputable escrow service" Like "escrowscamnigeria.arg"
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Fsj 6 April 2005 09:03:11 [ permanent link ]
	SCAM sorry for the yelling but it's a scam. Want to find out for sure? I inquired about a similar deal on an M5 almost identical story to yours. Wanted to use a service such as Ebay Square Trade and he gave me the web link. I went to the site then went to www.whois.net and checked out who owned the domain and when it was registered, etc... Turns out it was registered the day before. I then researched a reputable service and told the seller that I first needed to see/touch the car since the Car and I were supposedly in the same city and that I would like to use www.IForgetEscrowService.com instead of his service. Never heard back from the seller/scammer and oh yes I called him on the domain info I found. Run do not walk away from this deal. This is a very common scam and is in line with the emails from your bank/credit card company notifying you that someone tried to hack your account so please verify your user name and password by going to this site that looks and feels like your financial institutions however it's a temp site to gather/steal your info. All the best, FSJ "Awwwkrap" <capt_liu@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:e844aa7d8ed3b5a70710238bd5f67ef2@localhost.talkaboutautos.com...> Hey I just came across a 2002 BMW M3 on the web for $9000. Thats right,> nine thousand dollars.> The owner is European and says this car was American bought and because he> cannot change it according to European standards, he must now sell it out.> He says he has a small company in France. He cannot take finance, money> has to be electronically transferred through "Ebay square trade".> Now I have a question, is ebay square trade going to protect me and my> money from being frauded? I am not familiar with this.....> He tells me that only if the car is shipped and in advertised condition to> MY satisfaction, does square trade get verification from me to wire this> guy my money. Is this true?> Because this is an international transaction, I am skeptical about this.> What I ultimately wanna know is if "Ebay square trade" will prevent me> from a scam...(car not being sent after recieving money). Would square> trade send the money ONLY AFTER i give the okay?>
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Dori A Schmetterling 6 April 2005 14:42:57 [ permanent link ]
	No, SPRINT away... DAS -- For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling --- "FSJ" <fstanleyjones@houston.nospam.rr.com> wrote in message news:j4K4e.34353$ij5.29567@tornado.texas.rr.com... [...]> Run do not walk away from this deal [...]
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Malt_Hound 6 April 2005 19:43:23 [ permanent link ]
	Awwwkrap wrote:> Hey I just came across a 2002 BMW M3 on the web for $9000. Thats right,> nine thousand dollars. > The owner is European and says this car was American bought and because he> cannot change it according to European standards, he must now sell it out.> He says he has a small company in France. He cannot take finance, money> has to be electronically transferred through "Ebay square trade".> Now I have a question, is ebay square trade going to protect me and my> money from being frauded? I am not familiar with this..... > He tells me that only if the car is shipped and in advertised condition to> MY satisfaction, does square trade get verification from me to wire this> guy my money. Is this true? > Because this is an international transaction, I am skeptical about this.> What I ultimately wanna know is if "Ebay square trade" will prevent me> from a scam...(car not being sent after recieving money). Would square> trade send the money ONLY AFTER i give the okay? > This is obviously a scam. -Fred W
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Jeff Strickland 6 April 2005 20:52:10 [ permanent link ]
	On the surface, this sounds like a scam. There is a scam that goes something like this, I have 1.5 million in an account that I can't get to because there are regulatory issues. I only need $5000 to get through the regulations and get to my 1.5 mil. If you give me the $5000, when I get through the regulations, I'll repay you $25,000 for letting me use your money. A variation on this scam might go something like this, I am in France with an American car, and I can't get the car to pass the rules here, so I am going to sell it at a loss just to get over it. The trouble is, I can only take cash ... "Awwwkrap" <capt_liu@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:e844aa7d8ed3b5a70710238bd5f67ef2@localhost.talkaboutautos.com...> Hey I just came across a 2002 BMW M3 on the web for $9000. Thats right,> nine thousand dollars.> The owner is European and says this car was American bought and because he> cannot change it according to European standards, he must now sell it out.> He says he has a small company in France. He cannot take finance, money> has to be electronically transferred through "Ebay square trade".> Now I have a question, is ebay square trade going to protect me and my> money from being frauded? I am not familiar with this.....> He tells me that only if the car is shipped and in advertised condition to> MY satisfaction, does square trade get verification from me to wire this> guy my money. Is this true?> Because this is an international transaction, I am skeptical about this.> What I ultimately wanna know is if "Ebay square trade" will prevent me> from a scam...(car not being sent after recieving money). Would square> trade send the money ONLY AFTER i give the okay?>
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Jt 6 April 2005 23:27:04 [ permanent link ]
	"Awwwkrap" <capt_liu@hotmail.com> wrote> The owner is European and says this car was American bought and because he> cannot change it according to European standards, he must now sell it out.> He says he has a small company in France. He cannot take finance, money> has to be electronically transferred through "Ebay square trade". This is about the third variation of this scam I've heard. I can't believe anyone would be so foolish as to fall for it. I guess it is true that "you can't cheat an honest man" Think about it - most scams play on your greed...
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Steinar 6 April 2005 23:31:13 [ permanent link ]
	Jeff Strickland wrote:> On the surface, this sounds like a scam.> There is a scam that goes something like this, I have 1.5 million in an> account that I can't get to because there are regulatory issues. I only need> $5000 to get through the regulations and get to my 1.5 mil. If you give me> the $5000, when I get through the regulations, I'll repay you $25,000 for> letting me use your money.> A variation on this scam might go something like this, I am in France with> an American car, and I can't get the car to pass the rules here, so I am> going to sell it at a loss just to get over it. The trouble is, I can only> take cash ...> "Awwwkrap" <capt_liu@hotmail.com> wrote in message> news:e844aa7d8ed3b5a70710238bd5f67ef2@localhost.talkaboutautos.com...> Hey I just came across a 2002 BMW M3 on the web for $9000. Thats right,>>nine thousand dollars.>> The owner is European and says this car was American bought and because he>>cannot change it according to European standards, he must now sell it out.>>He says he has a small company in France. He cannot take finance, money>>has to be electronically transferred through "Ebay square trade".>> Now I have a question, is ebay square trade going to protect me and my>>money from being frauded? I am not familiar with this.....>>He tells me that only if the car is shipped and in advertised condition to>>MY satisfaction, does square trade get verification from me to wire this>>guy my money. Is this true?>> Because this is an international transaction, I am skeptical about this.>>What I ultimately wanna know is if "Ebay square trade" will prevent me>>from a scam...(car not being sent after recieving money). Would square>>trade send the money ONLY AFTER i give the okay?>> Take a look at www.mobile.de ,one of the largest sites for used cars in Europe. They have a clear warning about scammers. If the price is too good to be true ,it's too good to be true.... Steinar 02 e46dat 195hp/420nm he-he...
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Somebody 7 April 2005 16:33:44 [ permanent link ]
	"Steinar" <he_he@ldri.no> wrote in message news:42543906$1@news.broadpark.no...> Jeff Strickland wrote:> > On the surface, this sounds like a scam.> > Take a look at www.mobile.de ,one of the largest sites for used cars in> Europe.> They have a clear warning about scammers.> If the price is too good to be true ,it's too good to be true....> Steinar Don't forget, scammers do this on full price cars too... -Russ.
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Dfs 8 April 2005 09:03:30 [ permanent link ]
	You MUST be a freaking idiot to even imagine that this ISN'T a scam. This scam has been around so long, and discussed so widely, that it's hard to believe there is anyone in the world who would fall for it. DS "Awwwkrap" <capt_liu@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:e844aa7d8ed3b5a70710238bd5f67ef2@localhost.talkaboutautos.com...> Hey I just came across a 2002 BMW M3 on the web for $9000. Thats right,> nine thousand dollars.> The owner is European and says this car was American bought and because he> cannot change it according to European standards, he must now sell it out.> He says he has a small company in France. He cannot take finance, money> has to be electronically transferred through "Ebay square trade".> Now I have a question, is ebay square trade going to protect me and my> money from being frauded? I am not familiar with this.....> He tells me that only if the car is shipped and in advertised condition to> MY satisfaction, does square trade get verification from me to wire this> guy my money. Is this true?> Because this is an international transaction, I am skeptical about this.> What I ultimately wanna know is if "Ebay square trade" will prevent me> from a scam...(car not being sent after recieving money). Would square> trade send the money ONLY AFTER i give the okay?>
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