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CarGuru > Alfa-romeo > "C" ... Re: Dual Weber Carb Problem with Choke 10 April 2005 18:19:24
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"C" ... Re: Dual Weber Carb Problem with Choke

0_Qed 10 April 2005 18:19:24
 Catman wrote:> > Added fuel while using 'a' std air volume,> > as opposed to> > "choking" off the air volume using 'a' std fuel supply ...> > the typical down draft choking butterfly 'valve', before( ahead of ) the> > 'jets'.> Bloody hell. How?

Because of the quick_change venturis(QCV), it wasnt possible to add a
butterfly
'choke' upstream of the jets ... the carb just spritized an added shot
of fuel
to the air stream ...
I'd heard of a similar Webber model, w/o the QVC,
that did have a 'typical butterfly 'choke' ...
never saw one, tho.

Yung Sun =quick= went back to the Spica FI system.

:-)­> > You gotta be an untrained typist, rite handed ==> 'woudl" ...> > like me.> Self taught. 120 mistakes a minute, me :)­

-touch typing-
I 'started' life as a 360 assembly language programmer ...
one only had eight(8) characters for "names" ... =jibberish= names were
the norm.
I =hadda= self_learn to type somewhat "well" ...
otherwize, my 3_day turnaround 'assemblies' came back in my face ...
which =forced= me to learn how to use "rep" card patches, on faulty
assemblies,
to get them to run.
Not a good way to 'program' since 'rep' cards provided =NO= written docs
at all.
I pity the poor guy/gal that "inhertited" my code.

I wish I could convince the LF to do 'that'. AGHhhh!> Erm. LF? (I'm gonna regret that)

"LF" = Lady Friend ... SWMBO
I also have an "X" ... :-)­

AIUI it's a pretty good solution to an emissiosn porblem without the tech to> really solve it.> Like I said, though, my experiecne of SPICA is nil. I can barely cope withe> FI on a V6 and that's (comparatively) simple.

Musta driven the AR factory =nuts= with all the varying world emmission
stds ...

My "programming" expertise developed in the engineering/manufac­turing
area ...

Configuration Management ... during our Cold War era ...
Documentation(penul­timate accuracy) of what was 'in' the End Item ...
weapon system.
Lovingly called the "guzinta" problem ... 'goes into' corrupted.
"Form, Fit & Function", and Change_Control, personified in/on "paper".

Commercial 'folk' cant afford to do 'that' ... no how, no way.
I did a 'stint' on the Saturn program ...
the standard joke joke was " Geeze, I wonder WHAT was 'in' that one ."
Made fault "diagnosis' kinda tough ... go find the "parts" on the ocean
floor.

Our nuc_sub program was the best of the best , partly because of
stringent, ridgid, demanding 'docs' ... mostly.

I'm surprised that the AR folks could even come =close= to maintaining
a "near_close" serialized bill_of_material for 'production'.

Our USA 'folk' were horrible at the task.
Showed "up" when ordering 'spares'.
" Take it home, try it, bring it back if it doesnt fit & work ".
I often suspected that GM didnt even 'try'.


End of rant. :-)­



Ed
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0_Qed 10 April 2005 18:19:24 [ permanent link ]
 Catman wrote:
Yung Sun had a Milano 2000cc w/Spica FI ... USA edition ...
...snip...> Why on earth didn't they use the Mortronic electronic system they used over> here?

Dunno.
Yung Sun had a 3rd_party, CD electronic( a DIY kit) 'box' that provided
more than enuf spark ... for his 'tune'.
Turned me 'white' one day. Too much for a WASP to handle.
Didnt have to use the 'purple' plugs anymore, either.

<snip painful experience>> lol

"That" experience prompted the purchase of a (retrieval) car_dolly.
Always =had= one, ever since .

The LF's 164 blew an ailing clutch, =just= as she mounted my car_dolly.
The look(her's) of =total= shock , when the throw-out bbg blew , was
priceless.
Stalled the engine, up against the dolly wheel blocks ... in gear.
The more I laughed, the angrier she got.
Whoa! That was funny. Or, so I thot.

...snip...> Lucky, lucky

:-)­
Actuaally,
a "LF" is cheaper to 'maintain' than a big sailboat.


Many thanks for your kind offer, =much= appreciated ,> > anything 'here' you need ???> > "Used", but new_in_a_box type stuff. <VBG>> I doubt it TBH. Most of my stuff needs either off the shelf bits (in the> Sprint's case) or serious custom bits (In the 116 case, It needs a custom> ECU to cope with the cams we put in. Fueling is utterly buggered ATM) One> of the reasons I haven't moved to the US is Alfa spares :)­

In 'truth' ...
I was refering to PC parts ...
anything "AR" is long since gone from our wrecking yards.

Custom "ECU" ...
can you dump the prom(eeprom?) chip code, hack it to suit ???
Not all that daunting a 'task' , depending upon the mcu used.

If I can 'hack' a modular bios "load" ... ".bin" file ...
you aughta be able to find a 'coder' who can hack your ECU's code.
It almost seems that the folk that market the 'chip-tune' devices mite
be
able to manage that. But, at a price.

There are off-the-shelf 'boxes' that can pulse-count in real time ,
convert real-time "counts" , in various ways ,
send the 'converted' count onward.
Kinda 'kludgy' tho ... better to hack the code.

I'd bet that a local bios ".bin" file hacker mite be able to modify the
code
for you ... use a cheap(??) spare ECU modified with a socketed
prom/eeprom .

There is a guy on your 'side' that repairs mobos, he mite be persuded to
do the task for you ... will resurrect(sp?) his email addy for you.

On our 'side', we got "Homie" , of world renown ... the "Cap" problem.


Let me know if you want stuff shipped over though. chris at systemlabs dot> co cot uk is a good adress to reach me on. The reply address tends to get> swamped by spam......

;_(
Sadly,
I had an email addy that dated from the early 90s ...
the spam "load" made me dump it. Filters were useless.
Bastards!

Ed.
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