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7 Wire Brake Control Install

Rocketman 25 April 2005 23:48:10
 Hey Everyone,
So I am now working on installing my electronic brake control unit for
my RV into my 04 Silverado 2500 HD. Unlike Ford who finally learned
people with big trucks tow campers, Chevy hasn't yet offered this as an
option.

Does anyone know if my truck is pre wired for a standard RV brake
control unit? These aren't hard to install if you know which wires
you're looking for. Any chance Chevy simplified this?

Thanks for any help you can give,

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Lynn 26 April 2005 00:25:39 permanent link ]
 If you have the factory installed tow package there should be a pigtail
in the glove box. The pigtail plugs into the electrical panel below
the dash on the left side. If you didn't get the factory package you
should buy an aftermarket pigtail.

Now if you want a real brake controller that works like the Ford unit,
look here:
http://www.brakesma­rt.net/

All other controllers work by just guessing what your foot is doing.
Yes, I know they cost a lot, but there is no other way to get real
control except buying a Ford. Many will tell you about their favorite
controller, but they don't have a clue how they work.

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Mike Levy 26 April 2005 01:58:43 permanent link ]
 On 25 Apr 2005 13:25:39 -0700, "Lynn" <lynnm10094@aol.com­> wrote:
If you have the factory installed tow package there should be a pigtail>in the glove box. The pigtail plugs into the electrical panel below>the dash on the left side. If you didn't get the factory package you>should buy an aftermarket pigtail.>
Now if you want a real brake controller that works like the Ford unit,>look here:> http://www.brakesma­rt.net/>
All other controllers work by just guessing what your foot is doing.>Yes, I know they cost a lot, but there is no other way to get real>control except buying a Ford. Many will tell you about their favorite>controller­, but they don't have a clue how they work.


The 2002 and later models didn't come with the pigtail, even if they
were equipped for it. It's an item to be purchased from the dealer.
If the OP doesn't already have a controller, Tekonsha's Prodigy is one
of the leading models, and they offer a plug-and-play install with a
harness purchased from them. Has the GM plug on one end and the
Prodigy plug on the other. My father's used one for several years
now, and is planning on upgrading to the new model.

www.tekonsha.com is the site.
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Bill W 26 April 2005 06:46:32 permanent link ]
 
"Rocketman" <sopchak@us.ibm.com­> wrote in message
news:1114458490.121­727.103480@f14g2000c­wb.googlegroups.com.­..> Hey Everyone,> So I am now working on installing my electronic brake control unit for> my RV into my 04 Silverado 2500 HD. Unlike Ford who finally learned> people with big trucks tow campers, Chevy hasn't yet offered this as an> option.>
Does anyone know if my truck is pre wired for a standard RV brake> control unit? These aren't hard to install if you know which wires> you're looking for. Any chance Chevy simplified this?>
Thanks for any help you can give,



I've got two Z71s, '98 pickup and '00 Tahoe. Both had harnesses tie wrapped
by the spare tire for trailer lights and brakes. Lights and ground are right
behind the bumper in a single bundle. Two other heavy gauge wires (blue and
orange) are on the driver side by the spare. Other ends of these wires are
hidden behind the brake booster. Have several HD trucks in our company fleet
that have the same setup. If your truck is equipped, a wiring diagram should
be in your manual.


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Rich256 26 April 2005 07:12:55 permanent link ]
 
"Rocketman" <sopchak@us.ibm.com­> wrote in message
news:1114458490.121­727.103480@f14g2000c­wb.googlegroups.com.­..> Hey Everyone,> So I am now working on installing my electronic brake control unit for> my RV into my 04 Silverado 2500 HD. Unlike Ford who finally learned> people with big trucks tow campers, Chevy hasn't yet offered this as an> option.>
Does anyone know if my truck is pre wired for a standard RV brake> control unit? These aren't hard to install if you know which wires> you're looking for. Any chance Chevy simplified this?>
Thanks for any help you can give,
Yeah, you are all wired and ready to go. Does it have the "tow package"
(factory hitch)?

You might have gotten a pigtail for connection to a controller. For some
reason GMC didn't include it in the Sierra.
You can buy them from GM.

If you are getting a whole new brake control you can order the harness at
the same time.

I got my controller (Tekonsha Prodigy) at RJays

http://www.rjays.co­m

Also bought their ready made cable for connecting to GM products. Took
about 10 minutes to install. Two sheet metal screws and plug it in.

The Tekonsha site has installation instructions:

http://www.tekonsha­.com/prodig.html





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Jeremy Stec 26 April 2005 09:12:56 permanent link ]
 My 2004 GMC 2500HD came with the pigtail for the brake controller.



"Mike Levy" <blue2kzr2@gmail.co­m> wrote in message
news:1spq61p86k2qhi­b914vhij736ku6mstt0u­@4ax.com...> On 25 Apr 2005 13:25:39 -0700, "Lynn" <lynnm10094@aol.com­> wrote:>
If you have the factory installed tow package there should be a pigtail>>in the glove box. The pigtail plugs into the electrical panel below>>the dash on the left side. If you didn't get the factory package you>>should buy an aftermarket pigtail.>>
Now if you want a real brake controller that works like the Ford unit,>>look here:>> http://www.brakesma­rt.net/>>
All other controllers work by just guessing what your foot is doing.>>Yes, I know they cost a lot, but there is no other way to get real>>control except buying a Ford. Many will tell you about their favorite>>controlle­r, but they don't have a clue how they work.>
The 2002 and later models didn't come with the pigtail, even if they> were equipped for it. It's an item to be purchased from the dealer.> If the OP doesn't already have a controller, Tekonsha's Prodigy is one> of the leading models, and they offer a plug-and-play install with a> harness purchased from them. Has the GM plug on one end and the> Prodigy plug on the other. My father's used one for several years> now, and is planning on upgrading to the new model.>
www.tekonsha.com is the site.



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Rich256 26 April 2005 18:53:13 permanent link ]
 Interesting. Did you get the fuse for the 12 volts too? From what I heard
there should be a fuse along with the controller cable.

I ordered it with the 5th wheel pigtail too. Got the plug wired and no 12
volts. Then discovered the plastic plug in the fuse slot. Had to pay
something like $3.50 for a fuse.




"Jeremy Stec" <highrider71@HOTMAI­L.COM> wrote in message
news:426dcea7$1_1@1­27.0.0.1...> My 2004 GMC 2500HD came with the pigtail for the brake controller.>
"Mike Levy" <blue2kzr2@gmail.co­m> wrote in message> news:1spq61p86k2qhi­b914vhij736ku6mstt0u­@4ax.com...> > On 25 Apr 2005 13:25:39 -0700, "Lynn" <lynnm10094@aol.com­> wrote:> >
If you have the factory installed tow package there should be a pigtail> >>in the glove box. The pigtail plugs into the electrical panel below> >>the dash on the left side. If you didn't get the factory package you> >>should buy an aftermarket pigtail.> >>
Now if you want a real brake controller that works like the Ford unit,> >>look here:> >> http://www.brakesma­rt.net/> >>
All other controllers work by just guessing what your foot is doing.> >>Yes, I know they cost a lot, but there is no other way to get real> >>control except buying a Ford. Many will tell you about their favorite> >>controller, but they don't have a clue how they work.> >
The 2002 and later models didn't come with the pigtail, even if they> > were equipped for it. It's an item to be purchased from the dealer.> > If the OP doesn't already have a controller, Tekonsha's Prodigy is one> > of the leading models, and they offer a plug-and-play install with a> > harness purchased from them. Has the GM plug on one end and the> > Prodigy plug on the other. My father's used one for several years> > now, and is planning on upgrading to the new model.> >
www.tekonsha.com is the site.>
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Rocketman 26 April 2005 19:00:14 permanent link ]
 Everyone, Thanks a ton! There was a wiring harness in the glove box and
I'm investigating the rest. Yes, my truck was ordered with the tow
package. It at least looks like Chevy and the brakes control companies
are starting to get it together.

My 01 Chevy was ok but didn't have a fused 12v line for the RV or a
plug to connect into the brake line. Looks like my 04 is a step better.
Very nice to see. Now if they would just include that with the towing
package. Oh well, maybe in 2010. Can't move too fast.

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Rocketman 28 April 2005 20:08:55 permanent link ]
 Hi Rich,
No, brake control units weren't covered in my classes either ;-)­

Thanks for the extra info on the fuse box and such. I haven't yet dug
in to do the full install yet because I decided to get a new controller
instead of taking my old one out of my 01. The link Lynn supplied and
the information there made me read up a little. I decided to upgrade my
controller and so I ordered a new one. I'm hoping it is here before the
weekend so that I can install it then.

I read another news group on a GM page and they also had a bunch of
posts on this subject. You are correct that there was a "dual" battery
option for gas trucks that allowed us to carry and charge an extra
battery. I so wished my truck had this option since I'm an RV guy. I
would use this to swap out batteries on my camper and I could charge
one while driving around without the camper. Anyway you mentioned that
you had the dmax. Your setup is different than mine. This is explained
in more detail on the other groups page.

For anyone interested in this more check out this link

http://www.gm-truck­s.com/forums/index.p­hp?showtopic=40370

I hope this link works.

If my controller comes in Friday I'll have more details on my install
on Monday.

Thanks for the support/help!

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Rich256 28 April 2005 23:38:55 permanent link ]
 I looked at the posts on that forum. I note that one guy misread the
insturctions as I did at first, saying that the instructions are not to
install at fuse. That is true only if you have the dual battery option.
The Dmax wire is essentially the same as all the other vehicles except the
two starting batteries are wired in parallel.

I noted that one fellow had the same problem I did. He saw the plastic plug
in #1 slot., with a label on it and thought it was a fuse.

I expect you will find that #1 is power for the trailer and #2 is for the
brake control.



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Rich256 29 April 2005 00:01:32 permanent link ]
 Someone else said that Stud #1 was for DMax electronics. That is not true
either. As I said mine came with a plastic plug just like the gas engines.


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Rocketman 2 May 2005 16:55:53 permanent link ]
 Thanks again for the additional comments. My brake control unit didn't
come in Friday or Sat so now it will be next weekend before I get a
chance to play with it. The company I ordered it from is really so on
shipping.

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