OK group, I am looking for EXPERIENCE related opinions on hydraulic and> electric winches. Which type works best. If you have never used one> please don't tell me that type is horrible. I'm looking for one in the> 12,000 lb range. Thanks.

Look no further than the MileMarker hydraulic winch......

"Axel Hammer" <alpha01@dt-intra.d­e> wrote in message> news:421EBDF4.F274E­A92@dt-intra.de...> > ...and then take approach to what is being used by professional recovery> > vehicles.... no PS-pump, no MileMarker. Real PTO hydraulics, real high> > pressure winches.>

the US army doesnt seem to have a problem with running their mile marker> hydraulics off the power steering pump. the power steering pump is an> immense source of potential energy, and the mile marker makes good use of> it. it might not be enough for a 10 wheeled tow truck, but it will be more> than enough for any type of self recovery youll ever want to do.>

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"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.­ca> wrote in message> news:421F2E29.FBCEF­F02@sympatico.ca...>­ > What's up with your time and date Nathan? I am seeing you all over the> > calendar and clock in the groups recently.>

heh. my news server is really screwy lately (even worse than my mail> server). so long as it gets my messages up im not to worried.>

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­Mad Dog schrieb:>:|>:|> Look no further than the MileMarker hydraulic winch......>:|>:|..­.and then take approach to what is being used by professional recovery>:|vehicles­.... no PS-pump, no MileMarker. Real PTO hydraulics, real high>:|pressure winches.>:|>:|Cheer­z,>:|Axel

Very good report on the winch you have there ...>

Matt

what damage are you suggesting? i know of many situations on organized runs> where a single p/s hyraulic winch pulled the entire party up hills to steep> to climb with no damage. in fact, watching this first hand is what sold me> on hydraulic winching to begin with. i was riding my ATV on ft. bragg and> watched a hmmwv winch an entire convoy up a ravine.

"Axel Hammer" <alpha01@dt-intra.d­e> wrote in message> news:42217543.1F0E1­417@dt-intra.de...> > Prolonged winching heats up the oil very rapidly since P/S pumps have> > almost> > no reservoir that may act as 'thermal buffer'.>

what damage are you suggesting? i know of many situations on organized runs> where a single p/s hyraulic winch pulled the entire party up hills to steep> to climb with no damage. in fact, watching this first hand is what sold me> on hydraulic winching to begin with. i was riding my ATV on ft. bragg and> watched a hmmwv winch an entire convoy up a ravine.>

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"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.­ca> wrote in message > news:4221E350.471A3­0CD@sympatico.ca...>­ > Man to be the sucker/fool/idiot who stands at the top and 'has' to help> > everyone up is sure not my idea of a fun off road trip.> > ­>

heh. i dont mind it really. ive been "lead dog" in those situations when > wheeling with my buddys just because i had the hydraulic winch. its not to > bad so long as youre sitting on your bumper sipping a cold one while some > other sucker is running the cable back down. ­>

that said, ill take it up another level. i think that its irresponsible of > anyone to wheel without their own recovery gear. it doesnt have to be a > hydraulic winch or an electric winch. it can be a come-along or highlift > with enough straps but have _something_ to keep from being a burden on those > around you. theres just no excuse for not having some type of recovery gear > on board, you cant afford to off road without it. ive happened across some > in the past who were stuck that didnt have any recovery gear at all, and not > a clue what they were going to do and they were totally at my mercy and good > graces. its really sad when its a family out wheeling with small children > and not so much as even a cell phone/cb radio.