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Towing w/ 2005 4Runner

Robert 29 January 2005 10:01:53
 Hi,

I am thinking about buying a 4x4 2005 4Runner with the 270hp V-8
engine. The specifications for this model say that I can tow upto
7000lbs with it. I am new to towing and I want to know how well this
4Runner will tow a 6000lb trailer?
Any thoughts or experiences?


Thanks,
Robert.

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Guest 29 January 2005 13:23:34 [ permanent link ]
 towing is hard on any vehicle, esp if you go to the max rating.

Make sure you order a tow kit from the factory. usually thius comes
with bigger brakes, radiator, tranny cooler and such....

For regular towing I would want to be not so close to the max tow
rating.

Matt

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Guest 29 January 2005 23:13:54 [ permanent link ]
 
I strongly recommend if towing use an automatic, they are much better> at keeping you in the engine's power range, don't have a clutch to> wear out (especially if you are not an experienced driver of heavy> loaded vehicles...) and are just as reliable. No, automatics are not> 'sissy', many of today's big rigs (semi's) are equipped with> automatics for these vary reasons. If you tow a lot, do a> transmission flush *every* year...
Actually automatic trannies do have clutches that wear out :(­

Matt

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Peter D . Hipson 30 January 2005 19:18:37 [ permanent link ]
 That's true, but they wear out based on usage, not crappy driving
habits! <bg> I've seen very few drivers who can clutch heavy loads
correctly that are not big rig drivers... And the clutches in must
small SUVs are just not made to take that kind of usage.

But, worse than clutches on automatics is fluid breakdown, and
overheating. Most automatics die because owners abused them (towing
without selecting towing mode if there is one, towing too fast, too
hard...; and failing to change the tranny fluid on a regular basis.)

On 29 Jan 2005 11:13:54 -0800, web1000@shaw.ca wrote:
Actually automatic trannies do have clutches that wear out :(­>
Matt

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Peter D . Hipson 31 January 2005 18:30:04 [ permanent link ]
 I really wish I could describe it in an email, but basically you want
to minimize slipage on startup as much as possible... This does
require a transmission with a low first gear, if possible.


Heck, I've seen drivers who slip the clutch each shift (hit the
accelerator then let up the clutch slowly--clutch death!)


On 30 Jan 2005 11:05:09 -0800, web1000@shaw.ca wrote:
What is the best way to get going with a standard in terms of clutch>friendly?>

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Bowgus 1 February 2005 03:27:39 [ permanent link ]
 If you know your tranny, the clutch is redundant. Anybody have one of those
old air cooled beetles ... the ones with the clutch cables that would break?
Get it rolling with the starter, and shift at those shift points that were
conveniently marked on the speedometer face. Tachometer ... we don't need no
stinkin tachometer!!! I remember when that thing would get stuck in the
snow, put it in gear, get out and push, and jump back in when it got
rolling. And when one cylinder went bad, just replace that cylinder ... and
only 4 bolts to remove too pull out the motor to work on it on the bench.

So for me on a few occasions, the most clutch friendly way to get started
was ... put it in gear and use the starter :-)­


"Peter D. Hipson" <phipson@deletethis­word.darkstar.mv.com­> wrote in message
news:83gsv0ht25rfjp­vh8ccsub59mk9o9vhahe­@4ax.com...> I really wish I could describe it in an email, but basically you want> to minimize slipage on startup as much as possible... This does> require a transmission with a low first gear, if possible.>
Heck, I've seen drivers who slip the clutch each shift (hit the> accelerator then let up the clutch slowly--clutch death!)>
On 30 Jan 2005 11:05:09 -0800, web1000@shaw.ca wrote:>
What is the best way to get going with a standard in terms of clutch> >friendly?> >


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Peter D . Hipson 1 February 2005 03:37:30 [ permanent link ]
 Yer showing yer age... <g> Yes, I've drivin a few miles in just such a
car. They did so well without clutches, didn't they, and just like
todays hybrid cars, don't run at the stops at all!

On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 18:27:39 -0500, "bowgus" <bowgus@rogers.com>­
wrote:
If you know your tranny, the clutch is redundant. Anybody have one of those>old air cooled beetles ... the ones with the clutch cables that would break?>Get it rolling with the starter, and shift at those shift points that were>conveniently marked on the speedometer face. Tachometer ... we don't need no>stinkin tachometer!!! I remember when that thing would get stuck in the>snow, put it in gear, get out and push, and jump back in when it got>rolling. And when one cylinder went bad, just replace that cylinder ... and>only 4 bolts to remove too pull out the motor to work on it on the bench.>
So for me on a few occasions, the most clutch friendly way to get started>was ... put it in gear and use the starter :-)­>

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Lon 4 February 2005 07:43:59 [ permanent link ]
 
The '65 Corvair TurboCorsa could do the same thing. Also had a cable
for the clutch that liked to break unexpectedly. However I don't
think I'd care to try it towing a boat.


bowgus proclaimed:
If you know your tranny, the clutch is redundant. Anybody have one of those> old air cooled beetles ... the ones with the clutch cables that would break?> Get it rolling with the starter, and shift at those shift points that were> conveniently marked on the speedometer face. Tachometer ... we don't need no> stinkin tachometer!!! I remember when that thing would get stuck in the> snow, put it in gear, get out and push, and jump back in when it got> rolling. And when one cylinder went bad, just replace that cylinder ... and> only 4 bolts to remove too pull out the motor to work on it on the bench.>
So for me on a few occasions, the most clutch friendly way to get started> was ... put it in gear and use the starter :-)­>
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Guest 5 February 2005 13:00:58 [ permanent link ]
 Is that 6000lbs the trailer by itself or is that when it's loaded?

If thats loaded then a 4Runner would be fine for towing every now and
then, depending on the distance you plan to tow it.

If that 6000lbs is an empty weight, once you load that trailer you will
need a 3/4 ton pickup, 2 0r 4 wheel drive with a standard transmission
no question.

Take my opinion for what it's worth, but I have been towing trailers
ever scince I was old enough to drive. I am now 32yrs old.

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